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93hatchdx 12-16-2004 09:14 PM

before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
i am not going to be able to turbo for a lil while its looking like so how will my car run when i just have the 450's and the uberdata chipped ecu?

Zeusfire69 12-16-2004 09:16 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
Just run the base map and set it for 450's....you should be fine. (If you can, get a wideband before you do ANYTHING else, it's WAAAAY safer that way.)

tranceminister 12-16-2004 09:52 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
Yup, no problems running 450's and Uber NA.

93hatchdx 12-16-2004 09:54 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
will there be any hp gain with this? and, there are bad things that can come from this?

tranceminister 12-16-2004 09:57 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
Probably no hp gains because your basically going to be setting it to run like stock. If you dyno tuned you could probably squeeze a few ponies out NA by adjusting the timing etc. but IMO just leave it stock until you go FI. That way you won't have to re-tune all over again for a totally different setup.
Also, there will be no harm done as long as your not running overly rich to the point of constantly fouling plugs etc. Just make a simple basemap and start from there.

projekteg 12-17-2004 06:26 AM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
no hp gain and maybe actually a couple hp loss b/c untuned basemaps are designed to run a little rich and retarded (for safety reasons), but yeah, no problem to run 450's and uber, uber just won't be utilizing the boost portion of the maps b/c the map sensor will see no boost, but they're there for when you slap the turdbo on.

90accordIHI 12-18-2004 04:47 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
i beg to differ, will uberdata not see the increased amount amount of fuel at certain rpm's? i jsut bog down REALLY bad at about 4000 rpms with 450's and an uber basemap

itsyessiR 12-26-2004 09:35 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
no- ive been doing my home work on uber and turbo edit and ecu control and ghettodyne and zdyne and...ect.ect-
but uber will account for your vacum, instead of boost and continue to hold back the injectors, or it should, as posted by pgfi.org i thing it is, if not- pm me and i'll look.

90accordIHI 12-26-2004 10:32 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
i don't know, i used a basemap that a few other members are using. it did exactly as i said, hardly idled, and bogged at 4000 rpm's,as well as having a solid CEL. i scaled down the fuel maps across the board, and turned off the boost fuel effeciency(sp?) as well as timing in boost and it runs perfect.

unless i'm totally wrong about the the fuel part. would the injectors not continually dump in the amount of fuel that is in the map.

Spenser 12-26-2004 11:14 PM

Re:before turbo, 450's and uber??
 
dude, you just had a shitty chip, it happens sometimes. :)


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