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valkyie 07-31-2012 12:45 PM

b2b electric supercharger plans anyone???
 
Hey,
For all you guys that have messed around with electric superchargers I was wondering about this electric supercharger I found on youtube. It looks pretty legit for a few extra horsepower. I emailed the guy and he said he is also working a diy manual for a 6 psi air powered supercharger that works like nos and you just recharge the onboard air when needed. I put the link below.

Home - B2BElectricSupercharger.com

Matt Cramer 07-31-2012 02:07 PM

We did pick up about 2 psi of boost using a huge gas powered leaf blower on a Chevy Nova one day when we were horsing around. I generally don't like the idea of an electric supercharger, though. Any one that's big enough to produce a significant power gain will require a horrendous current draw (more than your typical starter motor), many of them are so small they actually cost horsepower, and ones that can only add 1 psi of boost still bump you into racing classes where you're competing against real superchargers.

valkyie 07-31-2012 06:23 PM

Leaf blower as a supercharger LOL as long as it works. Yes, it would take alot of amps for any meaningful boost. But I think the concept is pretty cool for a bump in power when you need at low engine rpm. At least its not one of those ebay marine blowers. I am thinking about buying one of the ebook manuals. He says he is working on a 24v version also. So when that ebook is ready I will buy it. I wonder how he plans to make a air powered supercharger? He is claiming 45 seconds of 6+ psi depending on engine size and then you recharge the on board air tank in 2 mins. Sounds like it would work like nos but I want to see it for myself.

dj4monie 08-01-2012 12:45 PM

I agree with Thomas Knight's view of his system. Its more fair to compare this to a typical nitrous system.

Most kits will run you $500-$600. Personally believe a bottle heater and DOT's or Slicks is mandatory. What's the point of having an extra 75+hp and 100ft of torque if you can't put it to the pavement?

Anyway 75hp is about the limit of most clutches both manual and automatic with a decent hook at the track, but may not be the limit of the engine. If you attend the weekly drags and get more than 3 passes, a 10lbs bottle would last you likely two visits if not a little more.

My local filler is $40 to fill a 10lbs bottle or say $80 a month.

When you add that to the price of the kit and sticky tires, you're looking at the cost of one of Thomas' electric superchargers.

I think its ridiculous to assume you would run it off the car's battery source that makes no sense. The system would have its own power source. You can use standard car batteries but they are heavy. Lightweight batteries are more expensive but you don't need more than 24V (2 batteries).

You would run the system like you would run a 2,000 watt stereo system, IE you would run a battery system separate from the car's main battery and a higher output alternator to keep the secondary batteries topped off.

Like Rear Mount Turbos the concept is sound, but its not mainstream where people have been doing largely the same things to engines from stuff we learned fighting WWII (large displacement, deburing/porting, balancing, high compression, supercharging, turbocharging, nitrous oxide).

To make electric cars or hybrids quicker you would need to increase the voltage as well, as I said the concept is sound and fairly cost effective, just requires a higher upfront cost.

You could DIY a system, maybe a large lead blower as above but with a 24v jolt instead of pulling from the car's battery.

dj4monie 08-01-2012 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by valkyie (Post 1309898)
Leaf blower as a supercharger LOL as long as it works. Yes, it would take alot of amps for any meaningful boost. But I think the concept is pretty cool for a bump in power when you need at low engine rpm. At least its not one of those ebay marine blowers. I am thinking about buying one of the ebook manuals. He says he is working on a 24v version also. So when that ebook is ready I will buy it. I wonder how he plans to make a air powered supercharger? He is claiming 45 seconds of 6+ psi depending on engine size and then you recharge the on board air tank in 2 mins. Sounds like it would work like nos but I want to see it for myself.

There's a company in France that builds air powered small cars/trucks. You would have to find a way to turn the gear inside a supercharger and while air is free, compressed air is both dangerous and hard to work with...

pichiti0621 02-07-2013 11:19 PM

!! please let me now who I can bay a b2b elevt. sup char....

psych0hans 03-27-2013 09:19 AM



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