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ricer09816 12-03-2006 12:09 PM

any good shop in NC
 
Anyone know of a good shop in NC that could put on my turbo ---- and tune me an ecu.

douspray 12-03-2006 06:14 PM

Re: any good shop in NC
 
where are you at in nc?

Bone1 12-03-2006 07:24 PM

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Joseph Davis :)

FreekeySingleCAM 12-04-2006 01:36 AM

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tuning - j davis...shop - idk

moto21dx 12-04-2006 07:10 PM

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theres ECP in Jacksonville. their supposed to be nice, and have a dyno I think.

mattnteclipse 12-05-2006 08:11 AM

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Really depends on where youre at and how far youll drive

weinerman31 12-05-2006 09:18 AM

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Joseph Davis is the ------- man!

I'm giving him my first born daughter when she turns 18

Tom-Guy 12-06-2006 10:17 AM

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If you are in the WNC area, go to Blue Ridge Motorsports in Morganton for the install. (828) 433-4545, talk to either Brandon or Mike, and they'll set you up. I'll roll down when they have your car together and sorted and throw the tune on it. My schedule is a bit wierd due to school + work + kid, so you have to plan ahead if you want me on tap without a hitch.

Master Jack at P1 in Charlotte also does very good work, I've seen a couple really nice cars he's touched. If you find yourself out that way, tell him I'm coming down to find him and buy him lunch at some point.

If you are in the Raleigh area I'm due down there on Spring Break to knock out a couple of people's cars that they don't want JDogg touching. Frankly, everyone I've talked to who knows anything has said that JDogg's gained a good bit of skill in the past several years, but he did learn at other people's expense. It's more of a moral issue than an ability issue if you are considering him, but I still question his basic abilities since he's got a degree in business and is light on the physics classes and engineering background required to understand what goes on in a combustion chamber. I call it Mase Syndrome, where you use a few guidelines and rules of thumb very much akin to secretarial work/filing/using a ------sheet... they can make the power if everything goes without a hitch, but they can't troubleshoot the ride when something goes awry.

East coast, ugh, I dunno? Is Thackston still in the game?


Hellbert 12-06-2006 09:19 PM

Re: any good shop in NC
 
if youre around greensboro i wouldnt recomend going to mark at turbo tune. unless you have mad money hell thow something together hella fast get a basic tune and send it out. bob stanly showed up one day maybe 2 or 3 years ago and broke his dyno with his retard hp GNX. idk if he had it fixed yet but it was off 100 hp.

where are you at JD? im down 421 from greensboro. from what ive seen uve got a lot of bad ass stuff and id like to check it out.

Tom-Guy 12-06-2006 10:02 PM

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Mapquest 28801, the Heart of ashEVILle. Drop by any weekend; ashEVILle is one of the best places in the world to eat breakfast, whether it's smashing a regular old fashion stack of pancakes or fine ------- early morning dining on some gourmet concoction the food is top notch. Whether or not I have anything to show you to impress you, well, I doubt it.

What I have right now is a pile of semi-assembled parts I hope to make run over the winter break, and a handful of boys with cars in various states. As in, one is running, six broken piles of ----.

Only one that's running right now is Goforth's CRX, 24 psi netted 393 whp @ 7300-9500 because ignition was breaking up and she just misfired past that point, but it's moot since the car spins 24.5's the whole way down the 1/8th at the 350 whp level. We installed some limiters/stops on the front suspension to keep the nose down and will have it at Shadyside in Boilling Springs, NC, on Sunday. Previous best of 7.15@107.8, hoping it breaks into the 6's, but cars are about as reliable as women so who really knows.

the4g4d 12-07-2006 04:27 AM

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may get flamed for this one but- RLZ in concord.

GSRswapandslow 12-07-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by the4g4d
may get flamed for this one but- RLZ in concord.

---- RLZ....unless you want a half ass tuned that'll blow your ring lands, an engine that will fall apart on your way home, or you just are fond of waiting months on end for them to even CONSIDER putting your parts, that they have in hand, together.

And after the 8-9 month wait for assembly....they'll talk ---- about you behind your back to other ppl...and then come back acting like friends.


GSRswapandslow 12-07-2006 10:07 AM

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and joey davis is gay

Tom-Guy 12-07-2006 10:14 AM

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I thought everyone loved Brad, and hated Howard? All the quirks I've put up with or friends I sent that way endured were from Howard. Three years later and Trav-ASS still wants to kill him.


Originally Posted by GSRswapandslow
and joey davis is gay

Awesome. Are you voting for me for President his year?


Bone1 12-07-2006 03:43 PM

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do I have to registar as a sexual predator to vote in that election?????


GSRswapandslow 12-07-2006 10:24 PM

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point me to the link, i'll vote you supreme overlord

udaredme 12-08-2006 04:18 AM

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wow...more people from carolinahondas..

moto21dx 12-09-2006 11:10 AM

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lol i just joined that site.

mattnteclipse 12-13-2006 08:47 AM

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ECP is jacksonville is supposed to be good i think a real good mechanic Larry works there.

moto21dx 12-13-2006 09:11 AM

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yeah im looking to get up with someone to chip and tune my ---- for uberdata.... im off to find the thread I first found ecp in now.

TurbodEG 12-13-2006 09:16 AM

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i don't understand...i have alot of friends who have had their cars tuned at rlz and didn't have any problems...the only problems i knew with rlz was that they take forever to finish machine work on a motor...my friend justin has a 550whp ls/vtec 00 Si...and darius with a 780whp eg both done by rlz and they havn't had any problems...and jack does some good tuning...he neptuned our turbo itr and it ran really good...

my civic is about done and i still dunno who to take it to for the tuning...i want JD to do it but he is such a busy guy its had to fit the time in...and josh (dohcdelsol93) wants me to take it to jd so he can go with me and ---- with him lol...but rlz quoted me the same price for a dyno tune as jd quoted for a street tune. :( BUT even though i have an ls in my car they said i HAVE to have a p28 and 3 bar map or they can't tune it...i don't see the problem in a 2.5 motorola map and using the p06...i might just go with jd...because it'll save me money since i won't have to buy the p28 :)

Tom-Guy 12-13-2006 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TurbodEG
my civic is about done and i still dunno who to take it to for the tuning..

If you feel torn, feel free to take it to someone else. I'm really only agreeing to tune your car because Chris, Ari, Pete, and Josh are your friends. No disrespect, but went you told me about intentionally running twin feed BDL fuel rail and huge injectors and top end high hp gear gear on a stock LS with no plans of ever making more than 250-275 whp, I felt dirty.

Form is in the function, anything else is morally corrupt by design. I can't hold, with any fairness, moral judgements against a living, breathing, learning, constantly changing person but a machine is what it is, and it's existence is defined what it is built to do. Mario, sight unseen, your car make me want to cry. It embodies extravagant nothing. :l

I hope this doesn't cause any hard feelings between us. I would sincerely like to meet you at some point and chill, you hang out with all the right people to be cool as ---- - socially. Machines are more like religion to me, and in polite company we shouldn't talk about religion.


Originally Posted by TurbodEG
BUT even though i have an ls in my car they said i HAVE to have a p28 and 3 bar map or they can't tune it...i don't see the problem in a 2.5 motorola map and using the p06

P06 vs P28 - the exact same piece of hardware, identical in every way, except for the VTEC circuit that at no point in time will be used in your car. But, Howard probably knows more than me on the subject, right?

TurbodEG 12-13-2006 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
If you feel torn, feel free to take it to someone else. I'm really only agreeing to tune your car because Chris, Ari, Pete, and Josh are your friends. No disrespect, but went you told me about intentionally running twin feed BDL fuel rail and huge injectors and top end high hp gear gear on a stock LS with no plans of ever making more than 250-275 whp, I felt dirty.

Form is in the function, anything else is morally corrupt by design. I can't hold, with any fairness, moral judgements against a living, breathing, learning, constantly changing person but a machine is what it is, and it's existence is defined what it is built to do. Mario, sight unseen, your car make me want to cry. It embodies extravagant nothing. :l

I hope this doesn't cause any hard feelings between us. I would sincerely like to meet you at some point and chill, you hang out with all the right people to be cool as ---- - socially. Machines are more like religion to me, and in polite company we shouldn't talk about religion.

P06 vs P28 - the exact same piece of hardware, identical in every way, except for the VTEC circuit that at no point in time will be used in your car. But, Howard probably knows more than me on the subject, right?

lol i didn't do the dual feed...i ordered a rail and got sent that one thats the only reason why i was wondering about doing it...but i ended up blocking off the bottom return and running it like a normal one...i have dsm blue tops on the car now and a aeromotive fpr...nothing outrageous...and i never said howard knew more than you...i actually think its stupid that he says i HAVE to have a p28 tp tune my car...---- all i am waiting on is a walbro pump and a map sensor and i could have the car to you whenever u want to tune it lol...the thing is...i need a car asap because i'm getting tired of bumming rides and driving my cousins car...

Tom-Guy 12-13-2006 10:12 AM

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I wasn't throwing what Howard said in your face, I was mocking what Howard said.

I had no idea your car was assembled in line with reality. ----, put a stock fuel pressure regulator back on her and she sounds perfect.

TurbodEG 12-13-2006 10:15 AM

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lol the car rides now...i don't see the fpr being a problem...i drove it all the way from Ari's house to my cousins which was a 30min drive on a basemap. it didn't do to bad actually...except the fact it was over heating because of my oem single core radiator with a downpipe hitting on it...i got an aluminum radiator and slim fan now...like i said once i get the map and pump all i have to do is find someone to tune it...if i have no other choice but to go to howard then i have to get a p28...if not...i have a p06 i can take to you :)...but i won't drive it...i have a trailor now

wadzii 01-20-2007 03:14 PM

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Hey joseph, you really like talking ---- about me huh?? i already shut you up on honda-tech about a year ago.. am i gona have to go around to all the forums to keep you from ------ing miss information about me???

at least if you are gona talk ---- let people know specific examples of what i have blown up, etc.

Yeah i have blown some ---- up, but who hasnt?? everything i have blown up was pushed as far as it could go with the gas/setup it had with the owner being FULLY aware of what could/was going to happen. maybe 3-4 cars in 2006, mostly due to hurt engines from previous tunes. 2 cars in 2006 due to being pushed really hard, one car in 2006 due to parts failure (first an injector failure, then a sleeve sunk, same car 2 motors) Not bad when you consider i tuned around 130 cars last year working less than part time. You may not like me joey, but dont go around talking ---- about stuff you know nothing about. I have had to go behind more cars that were already tuned by various local tuners in the last 2 years than i have done inital tunes (I'm not naming any names b/c IMHO thats unprofessional, if the customer wants people to know they will speak up, its not my place to do it for them. How do you know what i know about the physics behind a motor and what classes i have taken joseph, i havent talked to you in a LONG time about anything.

the car you mention, 24psi and only 400hp.. the last car i tuned with that much boost made over 600, hell i have SEVERAL street cars on pump gas around with substantialy less boost than that making 450-500hp and have been for a long time.

like i said, quit throwing my name around like you know me and my work. the fact is you dont, you dont see me talking ---- about how you washed the rings out of robs motor or any of the other ---- that i have HEARD about you and your work. Like i said, it's not my place to post up my customers issues, experiences.

BTW this is JDogg from ch.com and HT for those that dont know me.

moto21dx 01-20-2007 08:07 PM

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wtf 3-4 cars in 2007??? i wouldnt have said that, ---- man its only the 20th day of the 07 year.... thats a car every 5 days..

Tom-Guy 01-20-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wadzii
Hey joseph, you really like talking ---- about me huh?? i already shut you up on honda-tech about a year ago.. am i gona have to go around to all the forums to keep you from ------ing miss information about me???

Why don't you post up the links to the water/methanol injection threads you are MIS-remembering, Jason? I recall correcting you, chapter and verse, and citing published works both modern as well as primary ------- source, and you demonstrated your inability to refute any of the points in contention. Think hard, Jason, I proved them all. Can you post anything where you corrected me at anything? C'mon, bitchtits, please post just one, I would dearly love to see it.

My problem with you is your bullshit "Honda ECUs don't make me any money, AEM EMS makes me money," attitude, how I referred people to you who had problems with your tuning - car stuttering and hiccoughing down the road - I pointed it out at which point you blamed a third party (Alex for not knowing what he was talking about concerning Honda ECUs in re: the car didn't run right because George had a P06 instead of a P28) and you made ZERO attempt to correct the situation. I got the ------- ECU you dyno tuned for George McNeill, Jason, and the fuel map for an LS with I/H/E was leaner than a stock D15B7 fuel map. I haven't seen anything quite that laughable in some time.

I got sick of holding your hand, Jason, when you were whoring yourself out as Tuenarboi Maximus. There was the Mustang you couldn't get started, "Does it have fuel/fire/compression?" and you couldn't answer me, and you made no attempt to figure out what was missing. There was the Honda you couldn't get started, "Fuel/fire/compression, Jason?" to which you responded, "It's a brand new engine, never been started, the rings aren't seated yet there's no way it can have any compression" which is about as stupid as it ------- gets, Jason.

I served my time as an ASE-certified wrench, before you got your first snip of ----- much less a drivers license, and I was enrolled in an Electronics Engineering curriculum before your beloved AEM EMS had even reached the drawing board. You went to school for business, Jason, because you are wholly inadequate in the world of physics and machines. If you've finally developed some small degree of competency in tuning cars it is pretty ------- milquetoast at this point in the game.

Fist yourself, bitch.


moto21dx 01-21-2007 11:47 AM

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man... that was harsh. is he really that ------- stupid???

wadzii 01-21-2007 12:35 PM

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George never got back to me about his car, not my fault, i cant correct any problems i dont know about. you are hte one that gave me the shitty version of uberdata that had hte tip in problems. After i went back to the older version there were no problems. but no matter, i use crome now which is lightyears ahead of the uberdata garbage you had me using.

The mustang was an intermittent ignition switch failure. Not to mention he took it to a shop in greensboro to get tuned b/c was out of town for a month tuning cars and i had to come back and fix the tune, it drove like ---- and my shitty non-knowing tuning managed to make 165more hp than what it had from the previous shop.

Just because i majored in business dosnt mean i havnet had my share of physics, etc classes and been around more race cars than i can remember.

Like i said, you dont know any of my work, you have seen ONE car i have touched and that was probably the 1st or 2nd car i tuned on uberdata, which as i said before was a very shitty beta version that you told me to use.

now, go eat a dick and get my name out of your venereal disease infested mouth

moto21dx 01-21-2007 01:54 PM

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hey, u still fry cars every 5 days... And why talk ---- of uberdata?? If he gave you something, wtf, idiot, its ------- FREE. Go get it yourself you ------- lazy bitch. Dont blame him for your ------- stupidity and laziness.

DrSeuss 01-21-2007 02:45 PM

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All this internet bitching does nothing but confuse any potential customers. JD, do you think us mere mortals are able to reference the arguments your citing? Much like JDogg can refute as much as he likes, but people on here will believe JD because he's OG.

btw, although the phenomenal amount of information you hold JD no doubt improves your ability to understand whats going on within an engine, I think you've probably hit your boredom threshold; at least regarding tuning. I get the same way, if i'm not being challenged, i get bored/grumpy. My friend works as an engine designer for Ricardo and I think something along those lines would suit you really well. He's a graduate but has already been gifted with designing the new TVR straight 6 inlet manifold.

Anyway, my opinion counts for jack on here.




udaredme 01-21-2007 09:56 PM

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wow...I sense a little hostility here...I cant say anything...hell, both JD and JDogg know a hell of alot more than me about tuning..my first turbo tune is my own car, which im doin now..so if it goes-i cant blame anyone but myself....

dragmanEX 01-21-2007 11:28 PM

Re: any good shop in NC
 
wow, just wow! all this hostility, and in north carolina of all places. i've actually been to turbotune in greensboro. but i know nothing of his work or any other tuner in n.c. for that matter. obd2 pwns me.

Tom-Guy 01-22-2007 12:56 AM

Re: any good shop in NC
 

Originally Posted by wadzii
George never got back to me about his car, not my fault, i cant correct any problems i dont know about. you are hte one that gave me the shitty version of uberdata that had hte tip in problems. After i went back to the older version there were no problems. but no matter, i use crome now which is lightyears ahead of the uberdata garbage you had me using.

I let you know there was a problem - I told George you were a great guy, it must be some misunderstanding, I'd contact you and you'd make everything right. Instead, I got wisecrack responses that Honda ECUs don't make you any money, AEM EMS makes you money. You had George's contact information, he lives in the same town as you (or 30 minutes from it), it is YOUR FAULT if he wasn't taken care of.

What the ---- do you mean *I* gave you a shitty version of UD? It's free to download everywhere, archived on uberdata.pgmfi.org back to the first publicly released beta, and none of them had tip-in problems. How a tip in problem has [i]anything[i/] to do with a dyno-tuned LS fuel map that is significantly leaner than a D15B7 fuel map I do not know (you charged for that ----?) and I have zero clue how a ROM editor meant for P75/P72 code manipulated the P28/P30 based ROM I pulled from George's ECU. *It wouldn't open in UD, I had to pull it up in Crome*


Originally Posted by wadzii
Just because i majored in business dosnt mean i havnet had my share of physics, etc classes

That's an awesome quote. I think it says everything that needs to, down to the misspellings.


Originally Posted by wadzii
Like i said, you dont know any of my work, you have seen ONE car i have touched and that was probably the 1st or 2nd car i tuned on uberdata, which as i said before was a very shitty beta version that you told me to use.

You said you had a dyno, fuckstick, and I was trying to get you to make a SINGLE post on pgmfi.org with feedback so that the BETA software I had a hand in could be advanced. You NEVER made the first post, and I ended up pretty ------- embarrassed back in March '04 at the Hyundaidata seminar when you'd apparently pissed everyone on pgmfi.org off and caused John Cui to yank Crome from the internet because you were charging $600 for Crome tunes, had never bothered to read the first FAQ, make a single post of feedback on the software, said hello to anybody, and you called me whenever you had the slightest n00b 101 problem, answered everywhere on the internet if you'd bothered doing basic ------- research.



I'm still waiting for you to dredge up the first Honda-Tech post where you corrected me, much less drove me off. I suggest you produce one - you can't - or an apology in the next 24 hours or I'll go back to scouring your post history and lovingly correcting your every error. I'll link to your alcohol/water injection errors, you being schooled on D16Y ignition timing, etc, ad nauseam. I can make your pathetic, half-talented little e-life very embarrassing.



Originally Posted by DrSeuss
All this internet bitching does nothing but confuse any potential customers.

I could give a ---- less about tuning anyone's car for money. I have never at any point in time been a business entity, and I do not care to ever be one.


Originally Posted by DrSeuss
JD, do you think us mere mortals are able to reference the arguments your citing? Much like JDogg can refute as much as he likes, but people on here will believe JD because he's OG.

I'm being a nice guy and letting Jason cherry pick what he wants you guys to see of our past debates. Ask him for specific links. :)



Originally Posted by DrSeuss
My friend works as an engine designer for Ricardo

Sweet job, Ricardo Engineering Consultants is about as top notch an ME placement as you can get in the UK.

I'll stick to electronica.


DrSeuss 01-22-2007 04:03 AM

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I could give a ---- less about tuning anyone's car for money. I have never at any point in time been a business entity, and I do not care to ever be one.
*round of applause* rip him a new arsehole, most tuners in the uk are exactly the same, know jack ---- and still get upset if you start asking them questions about what they do (mostly because the cunts don't know themselves)


Sweet job, Ricardo Engineering Consultants is about as top notch an ME placement as you can get in the UK.

I'll stick to electronica.
Yeah, he's a jammy bastard, loves his job, great person for discussing the finer points of engine design with.

And the electronics involved in all but the very latest canbus equipped vehicles are only slightly more complex then a washing machine. Saying that, i'm about to start work for a firm that make hifi equipment as an analogue design engineer.


Tom-Guy 01-22-2007 11:17 AM

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Retro electro is cool beans in my book. I have an ME level autotech forum I'd like to pass onto your friend, when I'm off this stupid phone.

Tom-Guy 01-23-2007 10:32 PM

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Waiting for that apology, fat boy.


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