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sikcrx89 05-06-2007 03:54 PM

another HG question D-seires
 
ok i am painting my crx soon and i have to pull the motor out so i am ordering some arp head studs and a new HG to reach my goal of 275-300hp stock bottom end.. i am wondering if i should spend the $111 bux to get an HKS metal gasket or if i should just stick with an OEM gasket.. for those of you who dont know this is for my DOHC ZC...

samson 05-06-2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sikcrx89
ok i am painting my crx soon and i have to pull the motor out so i am ordering some arp head studs and a new HG to reach my goal of 275-300hp stock bottom end.. i am wondering if i should spend the $111 bux to get an HKS metal gasket or if i should just stick with an OEM gasket.. for those of you who dont know this is for my DOHC ZC...


MLS with Copper Spray. That'll be the consensus, I feel. ARPs, should clamp whatever you through in there down pretty well.


JP

Minor Threat 05-06-2007 04:49 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 
From what I've heard, you're better off with the HKS, no one seems to have luck with keeping the D16A1 gasket from blowing when really pushing power.

sikcrx89 05-06-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Minor Threat
From what I've heard, you're better off with the HKS, no one seems to have luck with keeping the D16A1 gasket from blowing when really pushing power.

really?? i have heard of people having some good luck out of oem ones with arp's

Racintweek 05-06-2007 09:02 PM

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most head gasket blow outs arent the gaskets fault, its either improper install/build or shitty tuning. OEM metal FTW


find me a thread on that other site that shows a HG blowing for no reason (aside from 50000000000 miles and over heating)

sikcrx89 05-06-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Racintweek
most head gasket blow outs arent the gaskets fault, its either improper install/build or shitty tuning. OEM metal FTW


find me a thread on that other site that shows a HG blowing for no reason (aside from 50000000000 miles and over heating)

thats what i was going to do is the oem but i was thinking about the hks one because its so JAYDM but either way..

DirtydseriesWoot 05-06-2007 10:50 PM

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save ur money get oem spray with copper spray and seal it with arps and get it tuned prfessionally or it will BLOW AGAIN

sikcrx89 05-06-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtydseriesWoot
save ur money get oem spray with copper spray and seal it with arps and get it tuned prfessionally or it will BLOW AGAIN

it hasent blown yet but this is more precautionary to reach my power goal

USS 05-07-2007 12:08 AM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 
If the A1 gasket is MLS, or another D series OEM MLS gasket works, use that. Otherwise go with the HKS.

sikcrx89 05-07-2007 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
If the A1 gasket is MLS, or another D series OEM MLS gasket works, use that. Otherwise go with the HKS.

well i ahve heard all of the OEM ones are mls now.. i judt wonder if its really going to make that big of a diff.. plus i was reading and the hks one bumps compression to 9.9:1 so it may be OEM FTW..

DirtydseriesWoot 05-07-2007 09:16 AM

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lol im using a felrpo head gasket on my d at the moment over 400whp

USS 05-07-2007 09:19 AM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 

Originally Posted by sikcrx89
well i ahve heard all of the OEM ones are mls now.. i judt wonder if its really going to make that big of a diff.. plus i was reading and the hks one bumps compression to 9.9:1 so it may be OEM FTW..

From what I remember the D16A6 has a composite head gasket which sucks big chunks. Many people have made a TON of power on a stock MLS headgasket and headstuds, so I see no need to go with an aftermarket piece.

sikcrx89 05-07-2007 07:25 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
From what I remember the D16A6 has a composite head gasket which sucks big chunks. Many people have made a TON of power on a stock MLS headgasket and headstuds, so I see no need to go with an aftermarket piece.

well i guess its oem ftw then... i am goign to go order it tomm or sometime this week and im waiting for craig at TT to get back to me about my studs..

kablammyman 05-10-2007 02:34 PM

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the d16a1 (and maybe the dohc zc, im not to sure) head gasket is not metal, its graphite. Thast why people say get an hks mls one for about $115.
Thats too much money IMO, and they are getting harder to find, so I plan to get a copper HG made for about $60.

SpoolinZc 05-11-2007 12:54 AM

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Is there a web site that has or that is strickly Dohc ZC aftermarket part or just have stock zc parks?, i have searched and searched and cant find nothing

sikcrx89 05-11-2007 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kablammyman
the d16a1 (and maybe the dohc zc, im not to sure) head gasket is not metal, its graphite. Thast why people say get an hks mls one for about $115.
Thats too much money IMO, and they are getting harder to find, so I plan to get a copper HG made for about $60.

like i said somwhere else in this thread i can get an HKS metal one for $111 shipped but it raises compression to 9.9:1..

Racintweek 05-11-2007 03:47 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
From what I remember the D16A6 has a composite head gasket which sucks big chunks. Many people have made a TON of power on a stock MLS headgasket and headstuds, so I see no need to go with an aftermarket piece.



i believe there was a TSB about those HG for EF's back in the day. my old CRX Si had 245k when i took it apart and i believe its was the original carbon/paper HG

Guy-Fast 05-11-2007 05:05 PM

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yuppers all old school d's use a paper hg

losesomethinbra 05-12-2007 02:11 AM

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Are DOHC ZC rods stronger than D16A1 rods?

sikcrx89 05-12-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
Are DOHC ZC rods stronger than D16A1 rods?

they are the same.. the say they are good up to about 250hp

RotaryGeek 05-12-2007 08:15 AM

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Just a random question. The headgasket box says that the headgasket requires to be put on dry and clean, yet i have seen many people use the copper spray on them. I know the copper spray makes it seal better but does it decrease the life of the gasket in any way? I always use the mls gaskets and copper so i haven't put on an oem in a while.

losesomethinbra 05-12-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sikcrx89
they are the same.. the say they are good up to about 250hp

At the wheels I hope... That is not bad. I wonder if thats with decent engine management

DirtydseriesWoot 05-12-2007 05:29 PM

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250 at the wheels is the absoloute max and dont expect it to last for5 years.. one small margin of error and boom...d rods are about strong as a tooth pick i say on stock dd d-series 200 is high as you need to go to the wheels

sikcrx89 05-12-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtydseriesWoot
250 at the wheels is the absoloute max and dont expect it to last for5 years.. one small margin of error and boom...d rods are about strong as a tooth pick i say on stock dd d-series 200 is high as you need to go to the wheels

im going to get 275-300whp out of mine.. if it goes it goes oh well when it does go here come the sleeves and the gm-4 ihi i have

sikcrx89 05-29-2007 09:50 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 
ok i have still been searching around for my HG and the best i can come up is the graphite A1 gasket.. i dont really want to spend like $130 bux for an hks that will bump my compression upto 9.9:1.. would it be worth while to get the graphite one with some copper spray?? or if anyone feels like it make me a copper one??

losesomethinbra 06-03-2007 08:02 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 
I just put arp studs and an oem acura gasket and I'm crossing my fingers... Then again I'm not looking for more than about 200whp. Let me know what you decide on

sikcrx89 06-03-2007 08:45 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 

Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
I just put arp studs and an oem acura gasket and I'm crossing my fingers... Then again I'm not looking for more than about 200whp. Let me know what you decide on

im probably going to end up dropping the coin on the HKS gasket for that extra added benifit

sikcrx89 06-08-2007 07:15 PM

Re: another HG question D-seires
 
well i caved and bought the HKS today from HPF for $130 shipped.. :'( and it was the last one they had in stock so if any of you guys were thinking of getting one for you dohc zc good luck they wont have another one for 3-4 weeks and its already reserved for me as well..


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