Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Ok Guys here goes.
I was reading the previous "threads" and came across acouple of older ones, which state that the " d series" ar not good to BOOST. they are no good as the Rods in side the engines are like match sticks. and will crumple under the extra force. made by the turbo. In other threads I read about sucess stories. of the D Series. I dont want to run my engine, but im papered to spend my money on decent products to prolong life of my car / engine. So any People here with the D series engine, please advise. Its my daily driver and i do some times 200 miles in it a day. So I dont want a unreliable car. and I still havent found the thread about the " testing of turbos" So guys ur honest Opinions. My budget is 1,000$ - 1,300$ so throw ur ideas at me, the last thing i dont want is, a car that dont run. :( |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
You can spend anywhere from 1g to 13g's! :o????
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opps 1 to many 0's :)
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
The added forces created by the turbo (within reason) don't add much stress on the engine's structure.
The engine already sees a certain amount of "peak pressure" (or stress) due to inertial loads created by rpm. Just make sure the stress that the turbo makes does not exceed the inertial stress that normally exists in your engine. But, I'm not saying that adding a turbo won't increase wear...It will. Anybody with a "D" series have any input? |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
I can make LS rods fit a d crank, and LS cranks are alot thicker than the D series rods. Also LS rods could take 300 hp or so without breaking. Just get some LS rods and some SRP pistons.
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
if i`d spend money to machine LS rods...since u will need to use metal brushing also...might as well spend a little more and get a set of Egale rod...
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
I only spent around $100 in machining and rods
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Originally Posted by ibby
Ok Guys here goes.
I was reading the previous "threads" and came across acouple of older ones, which state that the " d series" ar not good to BOOST. they are no good as the Rods in side the engines are like match sticks. and will crumple under the extra force. made by the turbo. In other threads I read about sucess stories. of the D Series. I dont want to run my engine, but im papered to spend my money on decent products to prolong life of my car / engine. So any People here with the D series engine, please advise. Its my daily driver and i do some times 200 miles in it a day. So I dont want a unreliable car. and I still havent found the thread about the " testing of turbos" So guys ur honest Opinions. My budget is 1,000$ - 1,300$ so throw ur ideas at me, the last thing i dont want is, a car that dont run. :( Are you serious? 200 Miles in a day? That's 73k a year. I don't reccomend any performance oriented anything if that's all the money you've got and you're driving that much. That's like 5 hours of driving a day minimum. |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
I would go t3 .48/.42 with 8psi. Maybe dyno tune a vafc hack into it and it should be pretty reliable. 8)
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Originally Posted by ibby
I dont want to run my engine, but im papered to spend my money on decent products to prolong life of my car / engine.
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Read up on fuel management and tuning...
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Oh I want to Boost ;D
What I meant to say was, I dont want to Ruine / Damage my engine, That Price of max 1,300$ does not include any Engine mods. Thats my max price for the turbo setup + including instlation. (doing it my self) So if it comes to uprating my engine with LS Rods/ Egal Rods How much would I need to Spend. ? $500 or More ? Come on D Series Lovers :) Help me |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
get a second car to whack a turbo on 'cos nothing ever goes right first time, especially if you need the car every day.
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
it cost me just over $1000 to build mine and then just under $200 to get it wideband/dyno tuned. that's what i suggest you do at the minimum. i've been boosted for almost 16k miles and 10k of that has been at 10-11psi daily. it's been on my car for just under 8 months.
if you have the $$ for rods and pistons i say do it. |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
JE pistons about $500, and EAGLE RODS $350, I got pistons on a ebay deal including b18c rods for $500, but I couldn't use the rods in my b16, so I got b16 rods from www.importparts.com, for $295 shipped, but this was on special for honda-tech members,, try import parts they have great deals and great service. but I dont think you need to rebuild an engine for low boost though, just trying to help.
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
If your really worried about it, buy another longblock and start building that why your driving your car. Then when its done, put that motor in and turbo. You ever blow it up, another one is in the garage. That's what I'm doing= no downtime. ;)
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
i got mine directly from importpart.com store(LA) for $299
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
In the last two months I've gotten:
D16y8 blown bearing D15B2 going headgasket D16A6 Missing valves All FREE Point is, put an add in "wanted" and you can probably find someone with one that needs a bearing or whatever even cheaper than that. Somebody has something. ;) |
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steve is that the y8 you're running or another one? are you holding out on me?
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Originally Posted by rudebwoy
JE pistons about $500, and EAGLE RODS $350, I got pistons on a ebay deal including b18c rods for $500, but I couldn't use the rods in my b16, so I got b16 rods from www.importparts.com, for $295 shipped, but this was on special for honda-tech members,, try import parts they have great deals and great service. but I dont think you need to rebuild an engine for low boost though, just trying to help.
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Try www.turbod16.com whole site about d series turbo's! very informative!!!
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Lol He's from the Uk so getting parts from the US would be a bit more expensive...and He has a D15....so no LS rod's for him. And about Eagle rod'ss do they make rod's for the D15??
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
The reliability all depends on how much power you want to make. Supposedly d series rods can only reach the 220hp mark. If you have a nice setup with good fuel management you'll be fine. the less money you spend in the beginning will mean the car will probably require more upkeep. Buy all the good ---- at first to avoid the nickle and diming of a cheap kit
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Originally Posted by Whitey
The reliability all depends on how much power you want to make. Supposedly d series rods can only reach the 220hp mark. If you have a nice setup with good fuel management you'll be fine. the less money you spend in the beginning will mean the car will probably require more upkeep. Buy all the good ---- at first to avoid the nickle and diming of a cheap kit
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
The most important thing is to not be afraid to blow the hell out of a few engines. You have to figure out for yourself what you can make a d-series put up with. Avoiding detonation is absolutely the most important thing because with your factory computer controlling most of the functions, you won't overrev to the point of failure. I find that only by blowing stuff up do you really find out what needs to be made stronger for the kind of power that's enough for you. Spend more money on management, find one that's the most adjustable so you aren't stuck with a car that has to be driven at 100% to run good and so you can compensate easily for upgrades.
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Guys, Im plan'ing to uprate my pistons +rods and rings.
what sites sell these items. aprt from importparts.com. ? Also another question, the bottom end of the engine. the crank. :- how much will boost will that take ? or how much BHP ? thanks ibby |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
crank should be able to hold around 400bhp so i've been told! i've yet to reach that figure but i am going there
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Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
ibby: Since it sounds like you want boost and you drive a lot, I recommend you just stay at about 5-6 psi. You can set up cheap fuel management with that low of boost (missing link and FMU) and it's not a dangerous amount of psi for the D16 by any stretch of the imagination. The best of both worlds.
The size of the turbo you choose to go with is going to be a huge factor here, especially on those 200 mile days. Are you mostly on the highway in the 4000-6000 RPM range? If so then a small T25 would be a bad idea because that means you're driving around in full boost for extended periods of time. That's putting a lot of wear and tear on your motor. If you choose a larger turbo, one that doesn't reach full boost until like 5K or so, that would probably be better for you. Just my 2 cents. I hope that helps |
Re:Advise me :- Im confused. Calling all D series and other Turbo'ed people
Cranks are the strongest part of the Honda motor. They're good to 600hp.
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