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labatt50 02-19-2006 07:33 AM

why these welder sucks?
 
#1
http://cgi.ebay.ca/MIG-131-87-AMP-11...QQcmdZViewItem

and
#2
http://cgi.ebay.ca/230V-DUAL-MIG-WEL...QQcmdZViewItem

and
#3
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Ul-cutting-weldin...QQcmdZViewItem

and
#4
http://cgi.ebay.ca/DUAL-MIG-WELDER-1...QQcmdZViewItem


i want to know why they are bad...

bumblezc 02-19-2006 09:15 AM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
Output Amprage is fairly low on them. Only 2 heat settings on the 110 models, A good 110v model can almost put out the same amprage as the 220v one you listed.

2tone 02-19-2006 09:18 AM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
They suck cause three are MIG welders and one is an oxy-acetalyne. The best thing to do is learn the art of TIG. TIG is no match for MIG.

bumblezc 02-19-2006 10:28 AM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
Although TIG is the best and final way to go, I still feel that no true shop is complete without a MIG.

Also OXY-AC Welding is a really great, but REAL pain in the ass way to go. I wouldn't recommend it.

Also The first time I didn't look at the prices. For those prices it's might be worth a try. Also, Labatt, Beeing Canadian, and the 220v is a Local Auction to me, you would save on shipping and duties as you in Quebec right? I've actually seen advertisements in local papers/flyers for the guy who is selling it I think.

SpankedYA! 02-19-2006 11:47 AM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
The main issues I have seen with the off brand mig machines is that they offer little adjustment and most of them have the wire feed motor burn out quickly.

Engloid 02-19-2006 11:51 AM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
Performance and reliability will not be the same you will get out of even a Hobart, much less a Miller. Also, you may find it harder to find tips, nozzles, and liners locally. If you buy a Hobart, Miller, or Lincoln machine, your consumables can be found at any local welding supplier. In other words, if you want to be able to find ----, get a machine that local shops use most, cause the suppliers will stock parts to keep them going. I doubt your local shops use HF machines.

It's your money. You get what you pay for and don't get what you don't pay for. A bicycle is much cheaper than a car, and will get you to work every day...but will it get you there the way you want (fast)? I doubt you ride a bicycle to work every day, and the savings difference in a car and a bicycle is a lot more than the difference in a HF welding machine and a decent welding machine.

SpankedYA! 02-19-2006 11:54 AM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
I bought a brand nwe lincoln 135-T with a cart for $460 shipped. Its only 135 amps and only good for about 3/8" but I only useing for exhaust and traction bars. Its a great little machine for the money.

Reddy 02-19-2006 01:44 PM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 

Originally Posted by 2tone
They suck cause three are MIG welders and one is an oxy-acetalyne. The best thing to do is learn the art of TIG. TIG is no match for MIG.


Ignorance. ::)

fork 02-19-2006 03:09 PM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
One of the big downfalls is the lack of adjustability of the current the last one looked decent but only had 4 "heat" settings. However I have a craftsman welder with four settings lie than and its not too bad. It is harder to get a nice looking weld though. Also with a generic machine, it will be next to impossible to find parts, like engloid said. try and find a used lincoln, miller or hobart. locally possibly. good machines like that last a long time, however they are hard to come by used for that reason.

labatt50 02-19-2006 06:10 PM

Re: why these welder sucks?
 
Thanks for all the comment, really constructive and damn i must read/learn a lot before buying one... and yes i'll try to check loccaly first... these thing are heavy to ship


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