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scottsi 12-14-2005 01:54 PM

welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
i have a 110 fluxcore, but it has the gas option, so if i get the gas and run the gas wire, will it lay down strong enough beads to make mounts with? or is that a bit iffy? i was considering getting the harbor freight tig for 200 bucks because that woudl probably make for some nice strong mounts. but i dunno. so yea

hotrex 12-14-2005 01:56 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
i think the 110 mig wont have the seack for any kind of real penetration.

the tig is a better bet, but the hf ones are scratch start.

and thats gay

scottsi 12-14-2005 02:29 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
scartch start isnt that bad though right? i'll probably just end up getting that welder, it lays down nicer beads than mig, and i'll have to make custom manifolds/ crossover pipes. so i might as well get the better welder

hotrex 12-14-2005 03:40 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
you do realize, besides the 199 tig, you need tungsten, rod, a bottle, and a regulator right.

itll rend up running you close to 600 to even get it going.

Ravage70 12-14-2005 07:12 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
fluxcore loves thick metal
turn it up full blast and very slow
itll hold no problem

3s-gte SW20 12-14-2005 07:31 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 

Originally Posted by scottsi
scartch start isnt that bad though right? i'll probably just end up getting that welder, it lays down nicer beads than mig, and i'll have to make custom manifolds/ crossover pipes. so i might as well get the better welder

just learn how to use the welder. I can lay beads with an oxy/acetelyn setup, nicer then any beads ive seen anyone post on here, thats been done with GTAW.

accordepicenter 12-14-2005 07:58 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
Scottsi, come on man, how long have you been on HMT? ::)

scottsi 12-14-2005 08:26 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
anything i welded was never structural, like intercooler pipes n ----. so what should i do? just go with a 220 mig?

Moving_Target 12-14-2005 11:44 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
Just get some scrap that's the thickness you're going to make your mounts with and try a few practice beads and adjust your machine until you are happy with the penetration, wirespeed etc. Heck, 0.125 thick steel on a 110V machine should be very doable with either flux-cored (0.035) or solid (0.030-0.035) wire with any style joint you'd have to fabricate.

W O T 12-16-2005 07:42 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
just go nice and slow with the flux and itll work fine, Ive made plenty of sturty ---- already and Ive probably only welded 3 hours total, frame rail, manifold, workbench, engine hoist

Sounds like you dont know what ur getting into tho, dont waste ur money

G2turbo_terror 12-23-2005 08:31 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
I personally would use it. Just use the proper filler wire, bevel any butt joints, clean the metal after you grind it and keep in mind the duty cycle of your welder and the maximun weldable thickness. What is questionable are the design of the engine mounts, post up you pics/ideas.

tuname420 12-23-2005 08:37 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
just try it and see what happens whats the worst that could happen? your engine fall out?

jinxy 12-24-2005 02:39 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
how thick of metal do you plan on using with your welder. if you got a gas bottle and cranked the welder up you should be able to burn through the metal, so i dont see why you couldent get good penitration.

hotrex 12-24-2005 08:02 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
oh yeah "500whp" on flux core ameteur welded mounts, sounds like a sweet plan.

keep up the good work asian pride boy. :y

ochizon 12-24-2005 11:09 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
I wouldnt trust a 110 to weld anything that needs to support anything. Good for pipes and little stuff, but just tack weld your ---- and take it to a real weldor....

coldfusion 12-24-2005 01:03 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
you do realize, besides the 199 tig, you need tungsten, rod, a bottle, and a regulator right.

itll rend up running you close to 600 to even get it going.

tungsten, filler rods: 30 bucks
80 cf filled argon bottle: 160 bucks
regulator: 60 bucks

thats around $250 plus the $200 for the tig, thats only about 450 bucks for everything, not seeing this other 150 bucks.

hotrex 12-24-2005 01:15 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
how about mask, gloves, stainless brushes, a grinder to grind tungsten if yu dont have one, differnt cups for your torch, trust me the AT LEAST 600 dollars is there.

not to mention, youll have to either rewire your garage for 220v or run a huge 10/3 extnsion cord like i did, which will run you another 100 right there.


coldfusion 12-24-2005 01:20 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
yea, if you figure in wiring a 220, thats a bitch, i just ran a socket right off my dryer which was right through the wall from my work bench. yeah, a TIG setup is not cheap but worth it when its all done. with the scratch start on my DC machine, it works really well, no complains about it.

hotrex 12-24-2005 02:17 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 

Originally Posted by coldfusion
yea, if you figure in wiring a 220, thats a bitch, i just ran a socket right off my dryer which was right through the wall from my work bench. yeah, a TIG setup is not cheap but worth it when its all done. with the scratch start on my DC machine, it works really well, no complains about it.

i ran a socket off my dryer and 75 feet of 10/3 cord, plus cord caps, it was 96 bucks.


hcivic 12-24-2005 05:22 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
i think the 110 mig wont have the seack for any kind of real penetration.

the tig is a better bet, but the hf ones are scratch start.

and thats gay

I run a scratch start for all my stainless work with 0 problems.
high freq can't hold up in the feild no to mention 20 ft up and trying to work a pedal is near impossible

hotrex 12-25-2005 01:24 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
well if your hanging upside down then yeah. a pedal would be a bitch, but for normal stationary welding, ill take hf start any day

Moving_Target 12-25-2005 09:10 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
Just out of curiosity, How thick do you think most stock engine mounts are ??

And are they, out of necessity, made out of stainless steel and must be tig welded?

With correct welding technique and gusseting, why couldn't a person make their own mounts. If "500 hp" is such a big deal, use a torque limiting strap or a piece of chain to limit engine movement due to flexing.

I have no personal experience with flux core but if the slag is chipped out before making another welding pass, where's the problem?

Caveat Emptor...I'm probably full of ----

hotrex 12-25-2005 11:07 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
oh yeah, a "power chain" thats sounds like the best solution...

you can mig it, but youll want a solid machine to do it with, not a harbor freight piece of ----.

Moving_Target 12-25-2005 11:52 AM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
God no, I was thinking more of an established brand name and with more than 2 heat settings.

If the rubber part of the engine mount has some flexiblity built in, a chain or braided steel strap wouldn't be
that harsh when the mount hits its' limit. I seem to recall at least one big block domestic that used a torque
limiting strap. Maybe it was a mopar, I can't remember...

scottsi 12-25-2005 01:56 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
well my budget for a welder is about 400 dollars, im thinking a decent tig welder, like a 135 or 175, somethin between there, im gonna have to run a 220 line from the box because my dryer one is hella old and i dont trust it, might burn the house down. And the mounts are going to be solid, no rubber here, and the wnegine is atleast 600lbs, very ------- heavy, and it will be making ALOT of torque so i have to make sure it wil hold. What im thinking of is getting my z32 tt front clip and cutting up the crossmember and welding it into the s13 crossmember.

hotrex 12-25-2005 04:34 PM

Re: welder to make mounts? is a 110 good enough?
 
lincoln 135 is a 110v welder.

everyones dryer plug looks funny, who cares, go to ew and buy a universal kit.


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