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b18. 01-16-2008 08:42 AM

Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
Sometime soon I'll hopefully be starting my own manifold, I've done a few others but nothing terribly complicated. I'm planning on going with stainless for obvious durability reasons, as well as a fairly thick flange, and was wondering if I could use some Silicone-Bronze filler to help avoid distortion in the flange.

Also I was going to go for a more ram-horn or long tube manifold, as opposed to the mini-ram/log kind of deals I've done in the past.

I'm going to have it bolted down as well but I was wondering if it would be worth the extra measure. The only thing that concerned me was that the strength of the actual bead is slightly reduced, which I could make up for with a bit more heat and less filler, but that kind of cancels the point of using it at all.

I just wanted to hear what some experienced welders/ fabricators would say.

t_cel_t 01-16-2008 11:44 AM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
i think it is like 80% strength but im not sure that is true at exhaust temps as well

b18. 01-16-2008 12:29 PM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
I know its more flexible at heat than SS filler, whether thats good or bad is the question.

t_cel_t 01-16-2008 05:55 PM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
well when i tigged it, it seems like a was barely even on the peddle enough to even get the steel molten. it just kinda sucked in there and i smoothed it out with the arc. really weird to go from mild to try something like that.

mopar318 01-16-2008 11:29 PM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 

Originally Posted by t_cel_t
well when i tigged it, it seems like a was barely even on the peddle enough to even get the steel molten. it just kinda sucked in there and i smoothed it out with the arc. really weird to go from mild to try something like that.

When silicon brazing you dont wanna make a molten puddle. You want to get the base metal only hot enough to melt the brass since the melting point it about 1000 degrees cooler. Its not supposed to be a fusion welding process.

b18. 01-16-2008 11:37 PM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 

Originally Posted by mopar318
When silicon brazing you dont wanna make a molten puddle. You want to get the base metal only hot enough to melt the brass since the melting point it about 1000 degrees cooler. Its not supposed to be a fusion welding process.

?

I'm talking about using Silica-Bronze filler for Stainless.

t_cel_t 01-17-2008 03:49 AM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
same thing

b18. 01-17-2008 05:09 AM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
I've done it before, I didn't have to braze or preheat anything?

Care to elaborate?

t_cel_t 01-17-2008 01:59 PM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
how are you doing this? torch, tig, heat gun set to nog?

b18. 01-18-2008 12:38 AM

Re: Utilizing Silicone-Bronze filler
 
I got a little Miller 200 tig, but my friend has a torch as well. I didn't think it needed preheating, just use the Bronze filler in place of the standard SS.


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