turbo flange crumbled??
 

im still a newb welder, and i dont practice that often. I still attempted to make my own splog manifold. Everything was kinda okay after making A LOT of mistakes during the building process (which i expected from my first manifold) Since the manifold was ugly as ----, I nick-named it "ugly betty" :1

However, after a few days of driving the car (about 40 miles a day...to and from work for 3 days), i leave the car parked as i went on vacation. i come home to find this:

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what do you think caused this? Was it the cheap ebay flange? My crappy welding? Too much heat? I'm just looking for some advice so this wont happen again.

thanx.

oh, this was done with a lincoln electric gasless mig. I think its called the weld pack 1200....i got it from home depot a few years ago....but i cant upgrade this one like i originally thoguht :(

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that is some crazy ass ---- right there. 8)

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wow, I don't know what caused it but looking at that mani and the dp in the background.... that setup is hardcore. And I thought my setup got alot of comments about being ghetto

Complex had a flange he welded on yuriy's up-pipe crumble pretty similar. I think I remember they blamed it on the cheapass material from the ebay flange. He welded on a weir flange I had lying around and said the welding difference was night and day. Ask him?

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Its the cheap ebay flange, i've had a couple do that to me. They are almost sandy inside. They dont like heat at all.

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that almost looks like a cast flange to me...

cast flanges = fail

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thats what i thoguht too...since i didnt think metal should leave powder. :D

anyway, thanx for the help guys. I got a new steel flange from ATP turbo on the way. 8)

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looks like it was made from chocolat :P

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lol

Maybe they made it with powder and a press. Like the way pills are made.

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good thing you caught that before any ---- got down into the turbo.

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How badly was it warped after you welded it on? You should check this with something straight after welding.

I agree the flange lookes like it might have been made from compressed dogshit, and that is probably the major issue, but also keep in mind that a warped flange will be stressed quite a bit (and also stresses the turbine housing quite a bit).

I have seen turbine housings actually break from being bolted to a warped flange.

Try to check it for flatness after welding next time (a steel ruler is good), and use a 60 grit flapdisc on a 4.5" grinder to (carefully) level it out a bit if necessary. Or even a large file will work although it's a little slow.

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1) Bolted it under way too much tension (from it being warped)
2) Not enough even heat welding it. You warped it
3) You didn't get enough heat & penitration when you welded it
4) Very poor quality flange material

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Fixed

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china is ------- hilarious.

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the flange is impregnated with impurities and oily wop grease.


it was like trying to weld aluminum with fluxcore.

tacotaco sells those flanges on ebay


dont buy them again, cheapass.

Re: turbo flange crumbled??
 

haha, yeah it was a bad idea to get an ebay flange. Wont happen again.

Also, thanx for the welding advice. :y

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preciate it!

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probably pot metal made from the tooth fillings of dead gooks >:D

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if you had bought your flange from me in the first place you probably would have saved $ even on the ebay priced flange.

ATP sells these for $23????? man, you must have $ to throw away, i sell mine for $10.

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But that is Canadian funds, give it another month or two and they will probably cost us in the states $30 :-[

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Nice manifold carnage :)

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d'oh!!

Well, seeing as my first mani came out crappy, I'm sure you will be getting an order from me in the future.

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http://trendgears.com/ebay/TacoTacoN...lange-T3T4.jpg

this is that 'cast raw steel' flange full of wop grease

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i was thinking the same thing

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read the post above you

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look at how grainy that ---- is!

Ever heard of www.turboflanges.com?

I bought my ---- from there and it was cheap AND legit.

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that down pipe in the background is hardcore! :6

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Any thing that you could have possible failed you did. ;D

1. You get what you pay for
2. Practice welding on scrap metal
3.take advice from people that have already fucked up.

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nice speed hole on the outside runner.

that flange looks like casted steel.

by any chance was there a grinder in your presence or were the gaps just filled with more weld

JK if you would have seen the down pipe i made last week for a friend a case of beer and some old scrap made a dp only a mother could love

looks like its cast

OOOOH MYYYY GOOOOD!!!!!!!! i'm posting this for all my friends to laugh at. LMAO!!!!!!!!!

1-NO heat= no penetration.

2- ALL steel starts out cast. it is melted then poured then shaped. there are different types. i weld to cast all the time. Just Pre-heat it.

3= Sell your welder immediately and crawl back into your mothers womb

LOL

looks to be a cast flange, you buy it off ebay or something?

eek. I think I could havemade my own out of a piece of sheet steel and have it come out better than that. I know this is HMT though, so nice attempt.

wow that ---- sucks.

honestly bro throw it away, i know home made setups are cool and all but that just looks like plain ass.

you dont want your car to run like ---- with exhaust/turbo leaks everywhere, just buy a proper flange

lol thats mint man slap it back on

id shoot myself before i put that back on my car.

home made turbo doesnt have to mean ugly and shitty.

you all know this thread is over a year old and the op doesnt even come one here anymore

Maybe the wire had too much moist on it.....