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gon3r 11-06-2008 08:30 PM

some recent toyota fab
 
mr2 downpipe i did about a month ago. deletes the big huge cat, i also did an adapter for the stock manifold to a t3 turbo but don't have pics of that:
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00639.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00638.jpg

5SFE manifold, built to replace the oem cast one which has a really bad restriction on the #2 runner:
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00656.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00657.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00658.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00660.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00661.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00664.jpg

Wank.a.lot 11-06-2008 08:36 PM

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looks good.

edit: can you show in a picture the restriction in the #2 runner?

jinxy 11-06-2008 09:19 PM

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Sexular.

TomBones 11-06-2008 10:30 PM

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Looks tits. I just finished making a downpipe from my friends Mr. Two 2 nights ago that looks suprisingly familier. Yours looks way more pro than mine though :) Excellent work as always.

Smith-02 11-07-2008 03:54 AM

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honestly i see some slight visual imperfections in your welds from time to time, or so it seems, but your ---- is always ------- amazing in looks and fit/function, which counts more? machine welds or crazy setups with no fitment issues?

t_cel_t 11-07-2008 07:45 AM

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at least he does it by hand, not some robot churning out manifolds that only pay for the cost of the robot.

SkunT 11-07-2008 09:04 AM

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Man, im really happy for you dude. Looks like you have yourself a great business. Manifold looks great. Keep cranking out those products, you will be very happy for along time!

gon3r 11-07-2008 09:22 AM

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yeah, i enjoy doing this stuff thanks guys. i like taking on a challenging project that most people wouldn't consider.

sometimes fitment isn't perfect and it isn't hard to spot those on manifolds (like the #3 to #4 runner joint). also, sometimes some areas are hard to get at to weld so they don't turn out as pretty as the easy to get at places. regardless, i will always stand behind my work and warranty it for life. that means if it doens't fit properly or it fails in any way, i will repair or replace it at my expense. and i'm not going to say i've never had to fix one, because i have had to fix some. atleast i learn from those issues and take corrective actions to prevent them from happening on any manifold i build in the future. in most cases it is the joint between the wastegate elbow and collector.

aaron

IntaCooler 11-07-2008 02:14 PM

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Aaron, your skills bring warm joy joy feelings to my heart, i gotta drive up to your office so i can get some custom mani's, ill bring up some of my home made wine ;)

gon3r 11-07-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by g_shok
Aaron, your skills bring warm joy joy feelings to my heart, i gotta drive up to your office so i can get some custom mani's, ill bring up some of my home made wine ;)

i'm sure your home made wine will bring warm joy joy feelings to my heart as well. come up on the 16th for some ribs and help out with my crx.

IntaCooler 11-07-2008 03:19 PM

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pm me the info, ill see if i can get off work and make it to help ya out

Toysrme 11-07-2008 04:20 PM

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Not gaps and fitment so much as stepping outside of a comfort zone and learning new skills. Its just as simple as that. Every weld on there that wier HAS previously encountered is great. Any weld that looks like he was practicing it, duh, hadn't tried that before. Just a hundred more things he'll know to avoid before hand, and recognize correct and incorrect things while under the hood to deal with a different type of weld.

If it was a honda manifold it would have been perfect. You are sure of the final placements, cuts, welds, shrinkage & expansion; you make it in sub-assemblies to avod welds that are outside of your comfort zone or experience. Stepped outside of the comfort zone, learned things. Downpipe looks good. Not helping you is missing a car to fab with. You make a honda manifold, you center the thing on the flange -> done. You go work on something else, you're expected to dodge things without knowing what there is to dodge. Sucks.

gon3r 11-07-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by g_shok
pm me the info, ill see if i can get off work and make it to help ya out

just check my last post in my crx build thread. november 16th, sunday. 9am to whenever we finish for the day.

IntaCooler 11-07-2008 06:48 PM

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got it

falkhen 11-09-2008 05:28 PM

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WEIR WULF manifolds... ARRR!! :X

t_cel_t 11-12-2008 10:05 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
hey that is definitly a 4efte manifold
heres the one on my car
Attachment 13120
and the "5sfe" you have
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00661.jpg
https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...a/DSC00656.jpg

assh0l3 11-21-2008 07:22 PM

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Yeah, its a stock 4EFTE manifold, but its going on a 5SFE.... 1991 Paseo. Thats all I ever said it was for so I can see how he would say its for a 5E.

Fit was great, quality was the usual WEIR perfection.

Aaron, I shoulda sent you the cat delet the guy ordered for the same car... you could made a jig for them and sold them as a set.


TTC 01-06-2009 03:15 AM

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Is that 1.5" sch 10 Aaron?

gon3r 01-06-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TTC
Is that 1.5" sch 10 Aaron?

1.25" schedule 10.

jabbersd 01-06-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AstroVannin
Yeah, its a stock 4EFTE manifold, but its going on a 5SFE.... 1991 Paseo. Thats all I ever said it was for so I can see how he would say its for a 5E.

Fit was great, quality was the usual WEIR perfection.

Aaron, I shoulda sent you the cat delet the guy ordered for the same car... you could made a jig for them and sold them as a set.


I think you mean 5efe 1.5 engine the 5sfe is 2.2.

What kind of price is it for that manifold?

TTC 01-06-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by weiRtech
1.25" schedule 10.

Weird, it looks so much bigger than my manifold, i guess its just cause the manifold itself is smaller.

myAE86turbo 01-12-2009 04:43 PM

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how did u determine the lack of flow on 2?

Tom-Guy 01-12-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by myAE86turbo
how did u determine the lack of flow on 2?

Look at one sometime.

t_cel_t 01-13-2009 06:44 AM

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well actually 2 and 3 are restrictive becuse of the studs that hold the turbo to the manifold. also the 4efte will always crack the #2 or 3 piston, rarely 1 or 4.

Tom-Guy 01-13-2009 12:46 PM

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That's an odd thing to happen to the cyls that flow the poorest, as they get the richest mixtures and the most conservative timing. The tunes must be completely off - #1 or #4 is pinging causing the ECU to pull so much timing it's in a knock feedback loop that overheats the piston, exhaust valve going thermonuclear and becoming a hotspot for pre-ignition - or there's a SB2/LT1 like problem where the inner bores aren't clearanced as big from the factory as the outer ones.

myAE86turbo 01-13-2009 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Look at one sometime.

well has anyone ever ported or honed the restrictive runner to somewhat keep up with the others? would it make a difference? i ask because i have a new cast manny for my corolla and it doesn't look too flowy on number 2

jabbersd 01-15-2009 08:41 AM

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yes people port them to try and sort it out.

assh0l3 01-15-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jabbersd
I think you mean 5efe 1.5 engine the 5sfe is 2.2.

What kind of price is it for that manifold?

Yeah, I meant 5EFE.... proofreading owns me

I dont think there'd be a hope in hell of getting even 2 of those bolt holes to line up on an S series.

As far as the restriction, yeah, just look inside the runners.

JD, what your saying sounds the most logical. It seems like the problems occur when people crank that ---- up. It would make sense that the ECU wants to pull more timing (based on 1 and 4) causing the issue on 2 and 3. Seems to me that issue would be more pronounced with higher boost levels.

I hadnt really thought of it like that before (i just heard it was an issue) , but it makes good sense.

Tom-Guy 01-15-2009 01:17 PM

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Most Toyota people I meet are drivers and enthusiasts, seldom wrenches and never electronics savants. Given what the MR2 community holds up as it's prize members - Ricky B with his abortion of an EMS, and noshoes with his double standards and cluelessness on basic levels, others - and that the St00pra crowd is a bunch of moneybags with no fundamental understanding and a basic ASSumption that the more it costs the better it is; the tech information distribution network for the backyard Toyota enthusiast is crippled. I'm not surprised people are stumbling over basic ---- like which cylinder is weakest, and why, with high profile douchenozzles like that distracting everyone from real tech. That's sad because the average Toyota guy isn't a n assclown like Evo, Scooby, Honduh, or V8 faggots. :(


assh0l3 01-15-2009 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
the tech information distribution network for the backyard Toyota enthusiast is crippled.

Yeah, theres not NEARLY as much informations as there is for Honda.

----, when I put together my ghetto as ---- Tercel, all I heard was "it cant be done, impossible, it'l blow up". Im not sayign it was a crown jewel as a technical acheivment or anything, but anything technical like came from here. The Toyota comunity didnt have a clue. "Swap a 4EFTE" "You have to take it to BYP", thats about it.

p.s. Dont worry, Toyota has its fair share of assclown too

Tom-Guy 01-15-2009 01:42 PM

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I know they do, I mentioned a few and their BS is partially why there is so little tech for Toyotas. I'm just saying that the average Toyota enthusiast I meet is a decent, hardworking, honest person.

Smith-02 01-15-2009 01:43 PM

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most people who play with 22r's and post on the internet think you need to swap head, cam, and exhaust manifold to go efi, or else 'it wont run right'

:1 :1 :1

myAE86turbo 01-17-2009 12:14 AM

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did I just get douchebag stamped on my forehead?

Tom-Guy 01-17-2009 01:37 AM

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Is your name Ricky B?

TTC 01-23-2009 09:58 PM

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I agree with JD, most toyota people just ------- sign cheques and drop their cars of at shops for months at a time ..... The nissan crew is 1000x worse those ------- guys wont fabricate ----. Evereythign has to be a bolt on affair or they ---- themselves.

scarecrowX 01-27-2009 12:30 AM

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heh, yeah. try to point that out to them sometime though.. i've been dropping subtle criticisms there for years that they are unbelievably DIY-unfriendly. i had some wank trying to tell me that the P75 ECU i'm using on my MR2 will make it drive like a honda and that i should either pony up and buy an AEM or sell my car to someone more deserving. there are few members on that forum that i think have a clue and whose posts i actually look forward to reading.. people routinely ask questions about how to do something like fix their injector resistor pack or where to buy an RPM switch and it seems like myself and others who know that you just need to yank one from an accord, or go on national.com for a datasheet of an LM2917 to build a $5 rpm switch post this stuff and no one there cares.

i shouldn't say no one. it's mostly the MKII MR2 guys. the MK1 guys are pretty inventive.

hey aaron, i still have pics of those CT26 to T3 adapters you made from the gasket i sent you if you need em. FWIW, mine's been on the car and boosting hard for a couple of years now and it works great. i used a standard greddy-style TD06 downpipe (made by brad bedell) and everything bolted up perfectly. i wasn't sure of the measurements for the thickness of the adapter plate, but it works perfectly. not sure if the knife-edged divider made the difference, but it's currently making around 300whp at 12psi.

HONDAaSIf 04-26-2009 11:12 PM

sick

Turbo10 04-26-2009 11:45 PM

Toyota Fab.. I thought that is where a group of enthusist get together at the local scrap yard to watch them run one through the crusher. lol


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