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StealthRTSC 11-27-2008 09:29 AM

Some of my tig welding
 
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I took a quick picture of the tig weld I laid down. The project was to weld a bolt on plate to the main hoop of this roll cage. It was for my cousins S-10..

Shitty Picture! sorry

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SpankedYA! 11-27-2008 09:47 AM

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um right.

t_cel_t 11-27-2008 09:56 AM

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did you think of possibly using any filler?
im pretty sure jb weld will hold up better then that undercut fail

and is that plate aluminum?

StealthRTSC 11-27-2008 09:58 AM

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Filler was used, and its mild steel.

darksol2005 11-27-2008 01:07 PM

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Sweet...... :-\

SpankedYA! 11-27-2008 01:12 PM

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Put up some more pics. I would like to see the whole cage or at least what you have done so far. Do you bend it all yourself? Id it prefab?

Toysrme 11-28-2008 03:50 AM

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picture is fine enough to see what needs to be seen.

Originally Posted by CSaddict
Put up some more pics. I would like to see the whole cage or at least what you have done so far. Do you bend it all yourself? Id it prefab?

AKA those welds are so bad he wants to know if the rest of the cage is welded like that. Also if you like your cousin or hate him like a rabid crab infection.

I aint bashing, but when it comes to a safety item. Holy crap. Tigging aint like using a sharpie man. That ---- needs to be tossed.


IDK how thick that pipe is, but that can't possibly be even 1/2 strength at any point based on the poor electrode angles and massive undercut & underfill.
And your pattern is spaced too far apart. That wouldn't be a "hey your weld test instantly failed" problem - if it was filled correctly and the sides weren't cut in & washed down so bad. The way it is, that causes a weak point to be even weaker!

mopar318 11-30-2008 02:10 PM

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Your not supposed to fuse roll cages together. ???

con 11-30-2008 02:59 PM

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Your going to kill somebody, take a night coarse now.

Passenger 11-30-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by t_cel_t

and is that plate aluminum?

Son, you're not in any position to be critical.

darius 11-30-2008 10:52 PM

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I hope you don't charge money for work like that

t_cel_t 12-01-2008 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Passenger
Son, you're not in any position to be critical.

sorry i dont know if aluminum will fuse together with steel, ive never tried it. the only reason i asked if it was al is becuase of the deep scratches on the edges. only metal that looks like that that i have cut is aluminum.

Toysrme 12-01-2008 06:23 AM

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That's the profile of the saw teeth. The set of a saw's teeth is how much it bends outward right or left from the saw. Many types of that. Most metal saws, especially band saws use a wavy profile. It lets each tooth only partially grab the material instead of the full tooth trying to grab it. The pitch of the teeth is normally varriable too.

turbob16hatch 12-01-2008 04:59 PM

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i think you need alot more practice before you go tig welding cages. you would hate to hurt someone.

TurboGuy 12-22-2008 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
i think you need alot more practice before you go tig welding cages. you would hate to hurt someone.

Quoted for truth

Aluminum and steel will not fuse together and provide any sort of structural bond. Steel is Ferrous, Aluminum is Non-Ferrous, read into that before you need a firesuit for the flaming you'll recieve here

Toysrme 12-22-2008 03:03 AM

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Well, you can but its far and away beyond anything youd find most people being able to do.
If you're NASA you can friction stir it.
You can do it with bronze
Silver solder will facilitate the weld
There are afew processes for gtaw-p & gmaw-p. If gtaw and gmaw can do it that pretty much opens the door that somewhere out there PAW and flux-core have done it as well. We had a lincon guy come in our shop at school and watched him run a T joint steel bottom alu top. Neat.
You can weld them via EXW (Bi-Metallic Explosive Welding)
Hot pressure welding
You can weld aluminized steel to aluminum provided the arc NEVER wanders to the steel. You let the puddle flow to it.
I *think* you can resistance spot weld them - dont hold me to that

The only way I know joe-blow at home could do it would be buy some bi-metallic inserts where they've already been fused together. Then you simply alternate welding their respective sides together.

But you can do it, oh yes.




Originally Posted by turbob16hatch
i think you need alot more practice before you go tig welding cages. you would hate to hurt someone.


Originally Posted by Conceptz-X
Quoted for truth

Aluminum and steel will not fuse together and provide any sort of structural bond. Steel is Ferrous, Aluminum is Non-Ferrous, read into that before you need a firesuit for the flaming you'll recieve here

Check your dates

TurboGuy 12-22-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toysrme
Well, you can but its far and away beyond anything youd find most people being able to do.

I stand corrected, somewhat

josh19wrc 01-04-2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toysrme
Well, you can but its far and away beyond anything youd find most people being able to do.
If you're NASA you can friction stir it.
You can do it with bronze
Silver solder will facilitate the weld
There are afew processes for gtaw-p & gmaw-p. If gtaw and gmaw can do it that pretty much opens the door that somewhere out there PAW and flux-core have done it as well. We had a lincon guy come in our shop at school and watched him run a T joint steel bottom alu top. Neat.
You can weld them via EXW (Bi-Metallic Explosive Welding)
Hot pressure welding
You can weld aluminized steel to aluminum provided the arc NEVER wanders to the steel. You let the puddle flow to it.
I *think* you can resistance spot weld them - dont hold me to that

The only way I know joe-blow at home could do it would be buy some bi-metallic inserts where they've already been fused together. Then you simply alternate welding their respective sides together.

But you can do it, oh yes.



Check your dates

sure can. Mazda does it on the trunk lid of the new Miata. Aluminum skin, steel frame. Welded togther.

Passenger 01-04-2009 04:32 PM

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I've friction welded al to steel before, but I think its really more of a glorified press fit. (This was done on a turning machine made to friction weld materials)

The point I was trying to make, was not, can you Al to Steel, but how obvious that that particular picture was not a steel pipe welded to an Al plate.

MoNkEyT88 01-06-2009 12:28 AM

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That wont pass.

Plus, clean your material before you work with it.


DelusionH 01-08-2009 10:55 PM

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Its a start. Just time before its right O0

Toysrme 01-09-2009 03:16 AM

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HONDAaSIf 04-26-2009 11:14 PM

nice

Turbo10 04-26-2009 11:25 PM

Hopfully a professional welded the cage and this is just a helmet hanger. lol

cobz436 04-28-2009 04:50 PM

i need to grab a night course!

es.roadster 05-11-2009 11:18 PM

shitty picture,
quality work.
good job man!

EKF22B1 06-09-2009 07:45 AM

I find its a beautiful welds
everyone is such an ass on this forum

2gtsi 06-09-2009 11:56 AM

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