some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

well, i had a 98 eagle talon in the shop this week and did a bit of work.

i supplied materials for the downpipe and dump tube (both stainless). the customer provided material/couplers for the intercooler piping only and the elbow for the cold side of the turbo. let me know what you would charge for this work...

the turbo is some retarded gt35 cold side, dsm hotside with a 2.5" v-band for the dp and a v-band for a 44mm dump right next to it. customer wanted a 3" dp with almost no room to work with. even before i started on the dp, i had to modify the oil dip stick tube to make room for the wastegate. normally it sticks straight forward:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00026.jpg

here is the solution for the weird transition from 2.5" v-band to 3" dp in a tight space with no room for a normal 3" bend.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00023.jpg
2.5" schedule 10 tight radius elbow... my new favorite fab item! these things will save tons of time and headaches with pie cuts... plus they will not crack. this is the second time i've used one and the outside diameter almost matches perfectly to 3" tube. the id matches perfectly to a racing solutions v-band flange... (thanks adam). the customer had brought a vibrant v-band, and although it is a nice piece, the clamp on it was way too big to fit the v-band on the turbine housing of the hybrid turbo... also, the flange didn't match the flange either...

here is the dp welded up:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00099.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00096.jpg

here is the wastegate clearance:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00068.jpg

here is the dumptube clearance for the hot side charge piping:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00065.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00070.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00091.jpg

next i mounted the intercooler, which wasn't too bad. i just made a couple brackets that allow for some adjustability with the ic:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00103.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00085.jpg

cold side charge piping was next, but first i had to weld a cast elbow on the compressor housing of the turbo:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00086.jpg

then i had to modify the magnus intake manifold to fit a mustang 75mm tb. it wasn't too bad, just made a plain flange, cut the old one off and weld the new one on:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00081.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00094.jpg

then the tb itself had to have a little cover plate made for the iacv and a vacuum tube on the pipe side had to me removed and plugged:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00105.jpg

last was the cold side charge piping. i had to make a bung for the mass air flow sensor, but everything else was provided. i also had to add beads around the ends of all charge piping at the customer's request since i don't have a bead roller.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00107.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...h/DSC00089.jpg

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

your to cheap for your work.

dsm fags will pay much more than that.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

That's an awesome deal. I'm sure some people would pay over $1000 for all that work.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

I would say $850. You're probably out $150 in materials. That leaves you $700 for around 6-9 hours actual welding fabbing work. Not including time to think, dissasemble everything, and taking up your space.
GJ on the charge pipe. I like the penitration on that aluminum O0


At $600 you're grossly screwing yourself. Charge like you know you're worth. You're worth alot more than that. At $1000+ He's getting a fair price, but you're not exactly giving hiim a reason to tell his gay cronies about the good deal he got.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

Charge him $800

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

You could get away with a grand and a half I bet. The fab shops around here sure would and their welds wouldn't be as pretty.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

$100/hr plus 10% mark-up on materials

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

hit him in the head 1500 or sell it on ebay thats what the guy around here does if you cant pay you get 3monthes then ebay

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

did you clearance his oil pan for free

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

That looks awesome man. And I for one think that is REALLY ------' cool that you did all that top notch work, and STILL charged a VERY reasonable price. Every one else is saying charge him more, charge him more, but they must have forgot what kinda smile it puts on your face when someone does some really nice work for you and then doesn't rip you a new ------- in the process. He might not be a rich prick. He might be a hard working guy who has to scratch and scrape for every penny in order to HAVE something nice like that. I have a friend who helped me out ALOT when I turbocharged my car. I didn't have a grand to give him at that time, but I've shot him a few bucks here and there, and when he needs something he knows I'll try my best to help him out. The bottom line is...he wasn't doing it to make a bunch of money or anything. He did it because it's what he enjoys doing, and he's a top-notch guy(and great friend) who likes to help ppl out. I think we can say the same thing about you. I wish there were more ppl like you and my friend out there, instead of greedy assholes who ALWAYS consider $$$ the bottom line...

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

You have to get at least $1000 for that. I would get that for just the labor.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

I would tell him $750, and at that price he is getting the deal of a lifetime. But he has to tell all of his friends that they have to get all there work done through you, because of the great deal.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

damn, thats some nice work as always. where do you get those elbows with the vbands already on them? i want some of those

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

i would say $800-1000 ish if i were to do that work for someone...

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

He welded it on

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

800-1000 on the minimum. too labor intensive.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

..Id expect to pay around a grand (or more) for that kind of work at that quality.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

this doesn't look welded to me. it looks machined

https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...h/DSC00023.jpg

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

yeah, it is just stuck in the pipe fitting to show fitment.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

oh

::feels retarded now::

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

and the finished weld...

https://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f...h/DSC00099.jpg

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

thats what i was thinking, easily 3 hours of just welding, ~5 for fab, and 3-4 for install. not to mention the time it took to figure how to route everything.
at $65/hr for fab/welding labor you are at $1k then another $200 for parts

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

i didn't do any install... just the fab work. i had to install some stuff for test fitment, but then it came back out. i ended up charging $700 for everything.

you also have to keep in mind, the customer had to flat bed the car to the shop and back as well, since i'm dock loading only.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

thats shitty!

you need to find a better location for a shop :(

or strike up a friendship with a local flatbed owner to help you out for cheap :X

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

Build a ramp :)

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

and i bet he was super happy with 700. Dp, dump, charge pipes, IC mounting, plus a shitload of little things (intake mani flange, etc)...thats a lot of work for 700 imho. I bet you get a lot of repeat work from him/his friends.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

Damn at $700 that was a steal for the guy, he must have been happy!!

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

You damn Canadians are too nice. How bout making me an adapter flange for my funky Volvo T25 flange to be able to bolt on a T3.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

$1000

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

Next time you should tell him $2k or bend over and bark like a dog. :P

I'd say that was a steal for $700. I mean they'd probably pay $450 for the exhaust parts alone. IMO trailering it up there himself is called the cost of doing business with a fine fabber such as yourself. You need to be arogant sometims O0

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

Nice work as usual Weir.

I think ya might need some monster ramps for that place. lol.

Or get yourself a cheap flatbed.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

I think you were a couple hundred low, but if that customer brings back a few more of his buddies for some work, it will be worth it in the end.

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

yup yup exactly what i thought

Re: some dsm work, what would you charge for this?
 

or some sort of lift converted to lift from the tires instead of the frame so you pull up on it and flip a switch and it lifts the car up to the shoppe and then back down when it's done