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TURBO4 10-05-2006 09:17 AM

SMILEY aka Mitec 120 TIG results
 
Hi guys, here are some beads I ran last night with my Smiley TIG. Some passes were with filler some without. I realized, that with using a 3/32 tungsten, the 1/16 filler wasnt cutting it, I need 3/32 filler.

Settings on Smiley were maxed out at 120 amps.

Base metal was 1/4" steel flat bar I had laying around. I had some graying around the outside of the beads, so I turned my argon up to 30cfm ( which I think is really high for welding in a garage) and kinda solved the problem. I think it was needing a flapper disk to clean up the surface. But please advice me on my technique and what else I can do.

I apologize for the pics, camera phone

http://hobartwelders.com/mboard/atta...9&d=1160057164

http://hobartwelders.com/mboard/atta...0&d=1160057179

http://hobartwelders.com/mboard/atta...1&d=1160057243

bumblezc 10-05-2006 11:12 AM

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Try actually welding 2 peices of metal together. That would give use a better idea of what your doing.

TURBO4 10-05-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JK_Motorsports
Try actually welding 2 peices of metal together. That would give use a better idea of what your doing.

I did, piece of angle iron, seen in the first two pics. I'll use my good camera tonight. I wanted to run some beads on the flat bar to see what kind of puddle action I could muster up

BoosTedZSix 10-05-2006 12:37 PM

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looks good from those shitty pictures :P why do you need 3/32 filler? that ---- is thick as hell. 1/16 should suffice.

bumblezc 10-05-2006 02:06 PM

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I've used 3/32 filler on MS, it was nice depending on what I was weldigon, the burn is a lot more controlled as you don't dab your filler as much, but I got those filler rods for free and wanted to try them, I only use 1/16 or .035 on REALLY thin ---- all the time now.

SpankedYA! 10-05-2006 03:20 PM

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I use 1/16" for just about everything.

TURBO4 10-05-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CSaddict
I use 1/16" for just about everything.

with 3/32 tungsten? Reason I ask, is on the beads I ran on the flat bar, I wanted to get some raised beads and the 1/16 seemed to be too thin, But on my fillet welds it seemed to be adequate.
Keep in mind guys, this was my first night, about 4 hours worth of welding

bumblezc 10-05-2006 03:32 PM

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Ya, but answer me this. When ever are you going to need to weld a bead straight across a peice of flat bar?

SpankedYA! 10-05-2006 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TURBO4
with 3/32 tungsten? Reason I ask, is on the beads I ran on the flat bar, I wanted to get some raised beads and the 1/16 seemed to be too thin, But on my fillet welds it seemed to be adequate.
Keep in mind guys, this was my first night, about 4 hours worth of welding

Yeah, 3/32 2%

hmtcrxsir 10-05-2006 03:44 PM

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how much did the smiley tig cost you?

bumblezc 10-05-2006 03:50 PM

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Search ebay, changes all the time. Type: TIG, Plasma

TURBO4 10-05-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hmtcrxsir
how much did the smiley tig cost you?

I got lucky, noone bid on the one I won. Cost me 399 + shipping

SpankedYA! 10-05-2006 04:36 PM

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That is a steal.

TURBO4 10-05-2006 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CSaddict
That is a steal.

Tell me about it. I'm not complaining at all. One question though, what causes the graying around beads? I turned my argon up to 30cfm, seems too high

bumblezc 10-05-2006 09:26 PM

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Too much heat, improper prep. I never run over 18-20cfm, unless I have the tungsten pulled way out for tight spots.

BoosTedZSix 10-06-2006 05:01 AM

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I too use almost 1/16 for everything. Although i did buy both just because lol i wanted to see the difference between the two. I also use the 3/32 2% but for some reason i seem to be able to control the puddle better with a 1/16 tungsten ???. and its not a smiley tig.

TURBO4 10-06-2006 02:27 PM

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To my surprise, my local welding supply store had gas lense setups in stock. I took my smiley tig torch with me so we could match up the right kit, and make sure (in the store) that it fit.

I purchased two gas lense kits, they were for both 1/16 and 3/32 tungsten sizes. They do fit the smiley tig.

Information http://tectorch.com/detail/gas%20lens%20kits.htm

SpankedYA! 10-06-2006 02:36 PM

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Almost all #17 air cooled torch parts fit the smiley.

TURBO4 10-06-2006 02:59 PM

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Just posted it for those that didnt know that. ;)

Took me a while to understand some things, I thought it would be helpful.

Engloid 10-06-2006 08:20 PM

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Carbon steel won't be shiny like stainless will after welding.

BoosTedZSix 10-06-2006 08:31 PM

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i cant even get stainless to be shiny lol. Unless i get really really close to the puddle. :'(

Walter 10-08-2006 05:48 PM

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this is a smiley too?

http://cgi.ebay.com/welder-series-MT...QQcmdZViewItem

SpankedYA! 10-08-2006 05:49 PM

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Yes Walter, that is the one.

Walter 10-08-2006 06:05 PM

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great! i hope to get one soon! :P

thx adict ;D

Smith-02 10-08-2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter
great! i hope to get one soon! :P

thx adict ;D

holy ----, he SPOKE DECENT ENGLISH!

Walter 10-08-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
holy ----, he SPOKE DECENT ENGLISH!

again... ::)

TURBO4 10-09-2006 10:34 AM

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ebay user id Smileytools charges 38.xx for freight via DHL, I dont believe they are drop shipped from China. Mine arrived in three days

Smith-02 10-09-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TURBO4
ebay user id Smileytools charges 38.xx for freight via DHL, I dont believe they are drop shipped from China. Mine arrived in three days

they are imported and stored until they are needing sold... just like hyundaiiii

Walter 10-09-2006 05:28 PM

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yep.. but i think thought those welders are from CHina..work good..

Inquisition 10-09-2006 05:41 PM

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Smiley Tools buys said welders from some guy in China(probably Mitec). They ship them to him. He ships them to you.

SpankedYA! 10-09-2006 05:42 PM

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Wow you are smart.

Inquisition 10-09-2006 05:53 PM

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Its not my fault there are people thinking the welder was drop shipped from the home of SSAC products.

Smith-02 10-09-2006 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
Smiley Tools buys said welders from some guy in China(probably Mitec). They ship them to him. He ships them to you.


Originally Posted by CSaddict
Wow you are smart.

NOONE SUSPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!! :8

Speeder 10-11-2006 09:16 AM

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i need someone professional to come in and tell me what i'm doing wrong. my welds are always dark and nasty looking.... regardless of the amount of gas used.

kamilk69 10-13-2006 12:21 AM

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use more filler, i know it sounds stupid but the more filler i use in the weld, the nicer the welds come out. bead wise and color wise.
make sure you properly wire brush, rinse in acetone, and make sure the tungsten is sharp

here some pics, of my recent smiley weld

Attachment 31997
Attachment 31998

88dx 10-13-2006 12:33 AM

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I just bought one of these silly things too cant wait :6

Speeder 10-13-2006 08:16 AM

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another issue i'm having (with filler) is the filler ends up "sticking out" on the other side of the weld more so then on the welding side. (and if i use less heat, then the weld is too small)


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