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Loserkidwac 06-16-2006 09:05 AM

Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Well I'm still new to this welding thing, been messing with welding mild steel and haven't messing with stainless at all....The reason I ask is because my BOV flange is welded to a peice of T-304 Stainless steel and I am using Aluminized Mild steel for my charge piping...I am using a Hobart Handler 180 Mig with a 70/30 gas mix and I think its .30 steel wire...can't remember off the top of my head...I know for mild steel I was setting in some where between 25-30...What i have been reading is stainless is a little more resistant to heat...soooo pretty much my question is am i going to have trouble welding my SS flange to my aluminized mild steel piping and is there any trick or methods i should use, thanks...Matt

bumblezc 06-16-2006 09:44 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Normally Stainless is welded at a lower temp.
Be sure to wire brush, grind, or buff the Aluminized Steel beforeyou weld it, to get the Aluminized Coating off of it
Run MS Wire. 030 is fine.
As for the setting, every welder is different, so I don't know what 25-30 is, For something like that on my Hobart IronMan 250 I would be at Voltage 2 or 3 depending on the flange, and Wire speed about 45.

Loserkidwac 06-16-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Cool, thanks...I always hit the bench grinder and wire wheel before i weld stuff...my major concern was weld different metals together so i shouldn't have problem...I have 2 knobs on my welder one is wire speed which I usually leave at the lowest speed since i think its fast already but i'm still getting used to it and my speed and control...oh and on a sidenot I have my JK traction bar sitting here can't wait to put it on :y

bumblezc 06-16-2006 04:49 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Great. Don't fear the 2 meatl things. Think about your SS Manifold and Mild Steel flanges.

SpankedYA! 06-16-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
When welding SS to MS you should use SS wire.

Loserkidwac 06-16-2006 06:25 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
When welding SS to MS you should use SS wire.

Is thatto keep from contaiminating the SS or other reasons? I should use SS wire but I can use MS?

civicturbo 06-17-2006 05:47 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
you are far beter off to TIG weld it, and if you mig it with either wire it will crack!
you can buy specific wire for mild to ss
but will probly still crack

tig weld it with ams, 5680 tig rod and it will be strong

Loserkidwac 06-17-2006 09:03 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Well i don't have a tig so I only can use mig but Its only for my BOV flange I'll just mig it with what I have and maybe put some JB weld over top ;)

Engloid 06-18-2006 11:19 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
The "proper" thing to weld it with is 309 stainless wire. However, if you already have 316 or 308, it will work fine for this application. Clean both parts prior to welding them (grinding or sanding to clean metal is fine), and you shouldn't have any cracking problems. C25 gas will do fine also.

There's nothing so bad about mig welding ss to cs. I've done it many, many times, had tension pulls, xrays, bends, and other tests done on the welds...without problems. I don't know why the poster above says it will crack. Maybe there was something wrong with his setup that caused cracking. I dunno. Maybe his parts were cast or something, which is more prone to cracking.

Loserkidwac 06-18-2006 11:38 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Yea everyone else who posted and the research I've done makes me feel confident enough that it will be fine, no more owrries for me and if for some chance it cracks I'll just re weld it...I'll make sure my prep grinding/ sanding and cleaning are really good and everything should be fine, thanks for all the replys

bumblezc 06-19-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 

Originally Posted by civicturbo
and if you mig it with either wire it will crack!
you can buy specific wire for mild to ss
but will probly still crack

Have to disagree. My Business partner built Farm Machinery for 3 years, Mild Steel to SS, MIG everyday, none of it cracks, Weld Temp and Wire Feeder is critical.

RabbitShit 06-19-2006 12:46 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 

Originally Posted by Engloid
The "proper" thing to weld it with is 309 stainless wire. However, if you already have 316 or 308, it will work fine for this application.

:y

CRXDrew 06-21-2006 01:00 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Whatever Engloid said- x2


Mr. 7 posts ought to come with proof if he wants to make claims about cracking.

stillnoturbo 06-21-2006 07:50 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
When I was welding up my exhaust that had stainless in it and the tubing was just mild I the bead just melted into the stainless like butter while it took a little longer for it to do it with the mild. It welded alot nicer too and I was just using just normal fluxcore for mild steel and I got less splatter and just nicer beads.

deckplate18 06-21-2006 02:28 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
i have had no problems welding mild to stainless with my mig. whenever i weld anything to stainless i prefer to use 309 ss wire and a tri mix gas ( 90% Helium-7.5% Argon-2.5% Carbon Dioxide) it has worked wonders for me so you should have no problems either, if you lack the confidence just go for it and you will see its not a big deal lol thats what i did and now im very confident mig'ing stainless :P

BoosTedZSix 06-21-2006 03:20 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
---- all that. whip out the flux welder :P

Loserkidwac 06-21-2006 03:22 PM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Ha ha ha...nah i just wasn't sure because I never welded dissimilar metals before and i know i read about possible problems...but i figured HMT guys new the truther since i've seen HF manis with steel ext gates welded to them

stillnoturbo 06-22-2006 01:50 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
Hell...steel is steel to me. It's either rusty or not rusty. I'll weld anything together if it's steel since all I have is hardcore OG fluxcore. I even got curious and desperate and tried AL and learned from that. It does make a cool popping sound though. 8)

dohc 06-22-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Noob Welding Stainless to Mild?
 
I welded my bov flange to a piece of chromoly and that went fine....just used the shitty harbor freight welder and 75/25 mix gas.....welded that ---- no problem...


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