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idiot-stick 12-20-2006 09:29 AM

Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
For anybody who needs a 220v outlet and hasn't had one put in yet, check this out:

http://quick220.com/

USS 12-20-2006 09:39 AM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
That's been done forever by floor sanders and stuff like that. 220 is basically taking two 110 circuits. The only problem is you're limited to the faggot amperage of your 110v outlets, which is usually ---------- 15a.

HMTguy 12-20-2006 12:55 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
$130 for the cheapest one? Might as well do it right.

USS 12-20-2006 02:00 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
$130 for the cheapest one? Might as well do it right.

Either that, or spend the ~10 dollars at a hardware store and make your own.

Dr.Boost 12-20-2006 09:12 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
Uh, $130? I could make that in about 5 minutes with ---- out of my work truck for about $20. ::)

1 double gang electrical box
2 3' pigtails (or 6ft for a better chance of plugging into 2 different phases)
1 220v plug of your choice



So it won't have the fancy light on it, but it cost $110 less. :1 I'm sure I could add a light for $1 or so.

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SpankedYA! 12-20-2006 09:17 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
The problem is that most rooms have one source.

Dr.Boost 12-20-2006 09:44 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
The problem is that most rooms have one source.

Yeah, but they say to use an extension ciord. That should work out real well. 15a circuit through a 50ft extension cord powering a 220v device. :1
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jinxy 12-21-2006 01:57 AM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Yeah, but they say to use an extension ciord. That should work out real well. 15a circuit through a 50ft extension cord powering a 220v device. :1

Probably has a high dollar capacitor and a safty shut off. Thats also proably the reason for the price.

Toysrme 12-21-2006 11:00 AM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

without ground fault interrupters in the circuits.
That just negated half the circuits on any newer residance!

Donald125 12-21-2006 04:42 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
what if my house only has one circuit for the entire house (1 x 110 source only)
there are only two breaker, one for all the lights and one for all the plugs LOL

DrSeuss 12-21-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
check the maximum rating of the breaker.

Dr.Boost 12-21-2006 07:40 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by rawr
Probably has a high dollar capacitor and a safty shut off. Thats also proably the reason for the price.

Why would they put a high dollar capacitor in it? ???


Originally Posted by Donald125
what if my house only has one circuit for the entire house (1 x 110 source only)
there are only two breaker, one for all the lights and one for all the plugs LOL

It's time to move out of your shed and get yourself an apartment. :S


Originally Posted by Toysrme
That just negated half the circuits on any newer residance!

NEC codes out here only require bath, garage, kitchen and outside plugs to be on a GFCI circuit in a standard home, unless it's within 6ft of water. AFCI is a different story and is more senstive that a GFCI. No ------- way you would be able to use that thing on an AFCI circuit. It's hard to even walk by an AFCI circuit without it tripping. :l
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michigan_soler 12-21-2006 08:22 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
ive only been an electrician for 6 months now, but damn... i could make something cheaper :D haha (and just as safe)

Smith-02 12-21-2006 08:59 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
mobile home/trailer breakers split two 110v breakers in half, and join them together as one fullsize in the middle

can't find a pic but those of you (JD) that live in a trailer, have seen this.

Dr.Boost 12-21-2006 09:09 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
mobile home/trailer breakers split two 110v breakers in half, and join them together as one fullsize in the middle

can't find a pic but those of you (JD) that live in a trailer, have seen this.

lol, huh? :l You mean a "twin" breaker? They come like that and they aren't just for trailers. :P
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michigan_soler 12-21-2006 09:22 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
SQ 2020 breaker? (i think thats what they are called)

Donald125 12-22-2006 02:39 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
then why does it only goes up to 380 volt when Ithere is 2 220v circuit in HK :1

jinxy 12-22-2006 02:40 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Why would they put a high dollar capacitor in it? ???


to hold power at an acceptable level since the 220v device is probably going to put a huge amp draw on the 2 110v's?

DrSeuss 12-24-2006 09:01 AM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
More likely they'd put in some form of impedance matching to reduce the imbalance created by the extension cord.

After all, if you plug in some long ass high impedance extension, your just going to draw the majority of current through the other socket (with the shorter plug lead), rendering your high dollar doohicky useless.

The issue most households would have is tapping into a separate 110v breaker without stringing miles of extension cord. Most houses in the UK only have 2-3 240v circuits one for downstairs, one for upstairs and one for the kitchen (possibly one for the cooker etc.)

The other way you could deal with it, is to wedge a paper clip in the breaker to keep it open :1 :S :1 :S :1


Slo_crx1 12-24-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by michigan_soler
SQ 2020 breaker? (i think thats what they are called)

That's the Square D model...other brands and companies make the double-single pole breakers as well. Here's something to think about too...the max amperage you could possibly draw on that would be 40amps...if you were lucky enough to have NJ wiring code where everything is at least 20amps 12-2 wiring and up. If you have a big welder, you're going to need at least a 50-60amp breaker so you don't exceed the 80% amperage usage that the electrical code states. I've been an electrician for almost 10 years now, and the minimum I usually install is 60a 2 pole breaker anymore for arc and tig welders.

Ravage70 12-25-2006 11:49 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
that thing sounds like fire in a box

PaRaDoX 12-27-2006 06:04 AM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
man you guys a crazy, we run 240V outta the wall down here!!!

HMTguy 12-28-2006 11:58 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 
He ain't euro

mike94se 12-29-2006 09:53 PM

Re: Interesting 110v + 110v + 220v?
 

Originally Posted by burkej62

Damn my cultural insensitivity.


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