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Swap_File 03-13-2006 11:21 PM

I built my own welder, and you can too.
 
One of the many steps in my project to turbocharge my 1989 Honda Accord is to get an turbo exhaust manifold. The problem is no one makes exhaust manifolds for the 3rd generation Accord anymore.

I like to do things myself, so I have decided to make my own exhaust manifold.

First, I need to build myself a TIG welder.

Following the directions here:
http://classicbroncos.com/homemade-welder.shtml
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Welding_Projects/

I built the following DC Stick welder (to be turned into a DC TIG welder):
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/386...arge6di.th.jpg

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2...arge2nv.th.jpg

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3...arge3wn.th.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/420...arge9bd.th.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/527...arge1qr.th.jpg
My dad’s weld's are on the left block, mine on the right. He has been welding for at least 40 years, this picture shows the result of my 3rd stick ever.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/348...arge5tw.th.jpg
3 10 gauge wires in parallel should be close enough to welder cable.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/6...arge3dw.th.jpg
Our old buzzbox

Most of the welder is temporarily hooked up for testing. I plan on getting rid of the hose clamps as soon as I get some female welder plugs.

So far it has cost me about $30 for the alternator (junkyard), and $20 for the pulleys (Fleet Farm). The motor and other parts we had sitting around the farm. I used an old computer power supply to provide 12v to the motor's stator, but I really need to make a dedicated variable power supply. Right now we estimate it is putting out 120-140 amps.

You can also do this with a gas engine, but I guess you need at least a 7HP gas engine (versus the 5HP electric motor I am running).

Not shown in the pictures is my second pulley. My setup works with one, but during testing I have heard the belt slip a few times. Going dual pulley should fix that.

Right now it’s just for stick welding, but if I add on an arc starter ($20 in parts, using an old car ignition coil and some other stuff), pick up a TIG torch ($50 or so), and rent some tanks I should be ready to go. I will post more pictures when I get that far.

Anyone else here have a home made welder, or want to build one?

FooK 03-13-2006 11:23 PM

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that's f'ing cool.

90dx 03-13-2006 11:41 PM

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Wow :o There is DIY but this takes it to another level.That is just awesome keep the updates coming on how this turns out.

RedCavz 03-13-2006 11:52 PM

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------- SWEET dude

Poon 03-14-2006 12:03 AM

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That's an awesome diy, i want to build one right now!

nissannnnn 03-14-2006 12:27 AM

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that is pretty cool man..but that much electricity kinda scares me haha..i dont trust myself enough to build something like that ;D

CRXDrew 03-14-2006 12:29 AM

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make a DIY collector for your DIY ramhorn on a HMT kit with the DIY welder.... you will become HMT's new hero.

Anubis_4_99 03-14-2006 12:40 AM

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nice, i've been wanting to build my own welder for a while, i weld for part of my liveing so i can usaly do small stuff at work but nothin too in-depth, deffinitely cool

mechsoldier 03-14-2006 12:20 PM

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there's a diy out there to make a plasma cutter out of a microwave transformer too >:D do it

thermal 03-14-2006 12:33 PM

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badassm up the ying yang!!!! :o

fourthgenhatch 03-14-2006 12:47 PM

Re: I built my own welder, and you can too.
 

Originally Posted by CRXDrew
make a DIY collector for your DIY ramhorn on a HMT kit with the DIY welder.... you will become HMT's new hero.

you would definitely be my hero :y

and by the way, that is ------- sweet

70Challenger 03-14-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mechsoldier
there's a diy out there to make a plasma cutter out of a microwave transformer too >:D do it

wheres that link at?

crowdesign 03-14-2006 02:14 PM

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Sick ;D

asianpoet 03-14-2006 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mechsoldier
there's a diy out there to make a plasma cutter out of a microwave transformer too >:D do it

thats pretty cool...

I also need to find out where to make a plasma cutter

Scott-EP 03-14-2006 06:49 PM

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i like using car parts, to build a machine, to make car parts. thats awesome

70Challenger 03-14-2006 11:55 PM

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can anyone provide the DIY Plasma Cutter link?!

dlb 03-15-2006 12:20 AM

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Wow thats cool. Can someone sticky this please.

UltimX 03-15-2006 02:00 AM

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holly crap man! :o :o good stuff!

0b00st0 03-15-2006 02:11 AM

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Pimp ---- guy. I saw that idea on a bronco webste and wanted to build it, but I don't have 240 in my garage, which is holding me back on getting any kind of welder.

Good setup and good idea on the ATX power supply for the alternator windings. Beats using a battery.

Swap_File 03-15-2006 11:59 AM

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Here is the plasma cutter schematic from the yahoo welding projects group:

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9...inal2bw.th.jpg

The most expensive part is the plasma torch, the cheapest I have found them is $100 or so on ebay.

fork 03-15-2006 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swap_File
Here is the plasma cutter schematic from the yahoo welding projects group:

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9...inal2bw.th.jpg

The most expensive part is the plasma torch, the cheapest I have found them is $100 or so on ebay.


No ------- way im building tha thing, a ------- stun gun and running wires into a bucket of water, Sounds like like a death trap. I'd definitely do the welder though

FURACERMAN 03-15-2006 08:22 PM

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Electronics own me, but I've been wanting to try and build one of those to run on my trail rig.

accordepicenter 03-15-2006 10:00 PM

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swap i didnt know you were on here? Youve got a Turbo A20 project too? Your homemade welder is freaking cool... i never thought of that. Not sure how long that alternator is gonna last with that kind of a load on it, itll prolly depend on duty cycle.

SQ is the SQUAD 03-15-2006 10:11 PM

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damn, 3geez.com is really repping over here huh. anyways, i just happen to have an old gm 1 wire altinator in my basement. sounds like i got a new weekend project. we must have like 10 different a20a turbo projects right now

0b00st0 03-16-2006 10:08 AM

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That's a great thing about alternators, is that they can run on 100% duty cycle.

G2turbo_terror 03-16-2006 10:36 AM

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Heres some of the links I've stashed away for stuff like this
tig welder
http://members.thegeekgroup.org/~js530/tig.html
DIY welder forums
http://forums.diywelder.com/forum/index.php

BUCKETHEAD 03-16-2006 10:59 AM

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how would you go bout making it a tig?
i do heating and airconditioning so we have tons of motors in the where house, i have argon tanks in the garage too, i guess i can go to hf to get a tig gun but how would i wire it all up? can you make a schematic of how it would all be hooked up with a coil
also how many rpm does your motor do?

rexsk8er 03-16-2006 12:04 PM

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for someone with a bit more experiance in the electronic field http://www3.telus.net/public/a5a26316/TIG_Welder.html

Swap_File 03-16-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by accordepicenter
swap i didnt know you were on here? Youve got a Turbo A20 project too? Your homemade welder is freaking cool... i never thought of that. Not sure how long that alternator is gonna last with that kind of a load on it, itll prolly depend on duty cycle.

Yeah, I have been on HMT for a while, but I have mostly been lurking. Right now I am thinking about building a manifold similar to the Mosselman log. That way I can keep my AC and power steering, and I shouldn’t have to mess around with push fans or anything. I should have a prototype made out PVC done soon, but I still have to finish my manual swap, and OBD-1 swap before I can work on getting the turbo in. It will probably happen this summer when I am home from college.

While people do say that these alternators are 100% duty cycle, I know they are not made to take this kind of a beating. I got a cheap $5 digital thermometer, and put the sensor on the alternator. When it gets too hot I can just stop for a while and let it cool down. I also will be putting a fan on it.

Swap_File 03-16-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCKETHEAD
how would you go bout making it a tig?
i do heating and airconditioning so we have tons of motors in the where house, i have argon tanks in the garage too, i guess i can go to hf to get a tig gun but how would i wire it all up? can you make a schematic of how it would all be hooked up with a coil
also how many rpm does your motor do?

If you have a DC stick welder (either like the one I built above, or store purchased), just go to www.weldingdepot.com and get a TIG torch and accessory kit. Something like the WP9 is cheap and should work. Then just hook it up to the DC stick welder in place of the normal "stick holder", and then hook your argon up to the torch, and you are done. If you want you can hook up some solenoids to turn the gas on and off with a switch, otherwise just use the knobs on the tank. You just can't weld Aluminum with it, because that needs AC. If you want to do AC TIG you need to make one of those complex controller boards that others have posted links to. Eventually I may build one of them, but I wanted to start simple.

My motor does about 3450 RPM , and then it is stepped up to about 6000 RPM at the alternator.

Edit:
Accessory kit: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...epot/AK-x.html
Torch: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...pot/WP9-x.html
These torches have either 12 or 24 foot long cables. Torches have either have two cables (one for power, and one for gas), or a combined cable. Units with combined cables are supposedly more rugged. If you get a combined cable unit you need a power cable adapter:
Power Adapter: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...ot/105Z57.html

surfingsk8r 03-16-2006 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Swap_File
If you have a DC stick welder, just go to www.weldingdepot.com and get a TIG torch and accessory kit. Something like the WP9 is cheap and should work. Then just hook it up to the DC stick welder in place of the normal "stick holder", and then hook your argon up to the torch, and you are done. If you want you can hook up some solenoids to turn the gas on and off with a switch, otherwise just use the knobs on the tank. You just can't weld Aluminum with it, because that needs AC. If you want to do AC TIG you need to make one of those complex controller boards that others have posted links to. Eventually I may build one of them, but I wanted to start simple.

My motor does about 3450 RPM , and then it is stepped up to close to 6000 RPM.

Edit:
Accessory kit: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...epot/AK-x.html
Torch: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...pot/WP9-x.html
These torches have either 12 or 24 foot long cables. Torches have either have two cables (one for power, and one for gas), or a combined cable. Units with combined cables are supposedly more rugged. If you get a combined cable unit you need a power cable adapter:
Power Adapter: http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/we...ot/105Z57.html

actually you could proboably make it ac simpiler than your thinking, you see alternaters start out by putting out ac current but cars cant use ac current so they go through a rectifier bridge on the back of the alternater tahts just a set of diodes to control the direction of current, i think if you took the rectifier bridge off you would have yourself an ac welder.

91efate 03-16-2006 05:02 PM

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this ----------er is the hmt mcgiver

Swap_File 03-16-2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by surfingsk8r
actually you could proboably make it ac simpiler than your thinking, you see alternaters start out by putting out ac current but cars cant use ac current so they go through a rectifier bridge on the back of the alternater tahts just a set of diodes to control the direction of current, i think if you took the rectifier bridge off you would have yourself an ac welder.

The problem is for AC TIG you need to be able to control the duty cycle and offset of the wave. You can't just run normal AC through it, thats why they have all those control circuits.

This guy has some cool information: http://thompdale.home.comcast.net/tig.htm

surfingsk8r 03-18-2006 12:12 AM

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i see oh well thats cool though i didnt know that. but i still say my idea was pretty smart considering the limited knowledege of tig machines that i have.

Toysrme 03-18-2006 02:15 AM

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I love this. ;)

0b00st0 03-18-2006 01:49 PM

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The main problem in using an alternator for AC output is that the frquency is dependant on the shaft speed.

88crxSi 03-18-2006 03:42 PM

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looks nice gilligan!

sakpase 05-03-2006 09:40 AM

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I want one

Tauws 05-03-2006 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sakpase
I want one

Nice kick without any use ::)


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