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Claudio157 08-10-2009 06:54 AM

Home made turbo Kit - Polo 1.3
 
Hello, i'm from europe, here's the "little car" that i have been working..

Made a real ship turbo kit

(Sorry for my english).

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clutch kit

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the little holeeee

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water link

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the elephant many

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hard2obtain 08-10-2009 04:17 PM

Looks nice and clean, i like it

And which EMS are you using to control fuel?

dot communist 08-10-2009 04:50 PM

+1 on the EMS, also, vids plz :)

Claudio157 08-10-2009 07:48 PM

hey, i'm sorry but i dont know what is the EMS...if mean the electronic, this car is originally supercharged, and has a map sensor of 200kpa, that controls e manage the air/fuel..

dot communist 08-11-2009 02:07 AM

engine managment system. Greddy emanage is a form of EMS (piggyback)

Claudio157 08-11-2009 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by dot communist (Post 1283518)
engine managment system. Greddy emanage is a form of EMS (piggyback)



lool ok ok :D


so it's like i said, this car has originally a system that manage de pressure sent by the supercharger, it has a ECU with the map sensor that read's pressure's till 1 Bar (is not much xD), it has a wide band O2 sensor, and a CO sensor in the intake...it's a little old but it works xD..

V8 Dave 08-11-2009 10:35 AM

What he means is he has the Polo G40 system. It originally meant to work with the VW G-lader, but he's ditched it in favour of the turbo :)

Claudio157 08-11-2009 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by V8 Dave (Post 1283538)
What he means is he has the Polo G40 system. It originally meant to work with the VW G-lader, but he's ditched it in favour of the turbo :)



:D that's it!

toyollAZ86 08-11-2009 11:59 AM

bout time someone put something cool up. hahaha


nice job man

Claudio157 08-12-2009 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by toyollAZ86 (Post 1283540)
bout time someone put something cool up. hahaha


nice job man

thanks man..here it is a new photo of the engine bay (it's not finished)..


http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4787/imagem066v.jpg

fry12ice 08-16-2009 12:04 AM

isnt the engine management system different between a supercharger and turbo?

Claudio157 08-16-2009 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by fry12ice (Post 1283882)
isnt the engine management system different between a supercharger and turbo?


in this case nop, the only thing that need's to be changed is the ECU Eprom file..to only "spray up fuel" até the time that the turbo start's to spool...

The original file is always pumping xD lol

jbarr89 08-16-2009 07:49 PM

looks good

Claudio157 08-16-2009 08:59 PM

thanks :P

asv4k8 08-17-2009 11:44 PM

need test data

40 psi 4g63 08-18-2009 12:47 AM

something diffferent

Claudio157 08-22-2009 02:37 PM

later i will upload some vids...

khaOs 08-26-2009 10:30 AM

i've seen a few G40s changed to turbo. There was actually twin turbo G40 near my place. Anyway, great job!

Claudio157 08-26-2009 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by khaOs (Post 1285129)
i've seen a few G40s changed to turbo. There was actually twin turbo G40 near my place. Anyway, great job!


wow twin turbo i've never seen...that must be excelente in this engine.. :D


thanks for the comment, could you put some links to that G40 with the twin turbo?

Claudio157 08-26-2009 11:38 AM

here's some vid's, not with the hight quality because it's hard to film and drive xD

YouTube - Polo G40 turbo

YouTube - Cup vs Polo G40 vs outros

40 psi 4g63 08-27-2009 05:29 PM

in for updates

HKWe36 08-28-2009 11:18 AM

awsome!

Claudio157 09-03-2009 03:29 PM

well here it's something new..

Wrap my downpipe!

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1462/imagem232.jpg

Oil temperature and turbo gauge


PS - I have a question, what are the opinions about wrap the turbo?? anybody in here have try that?
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2995/imagem108.jpg

hatchkid91 09-03-2009 06:59 PM

ride looks dope man keep up the good work

Claudio157 09-03-2009 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by twinturbosupra123 (Post 1286137)
ride looks dope man keep up the good work



thanks :D

burkej62 09-05-2009 10:00 PM

aww cute little v dub

chito 09-16-2009 03:02 AM

nice 1

dkveuro 09-16-2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Claudio157 (Post 1286133)
well here it's something new..

Wrap my downpipe!.......................... what are the opinions about wrap the turbo?? anybody in here have try that?............

There are for and against turbo wrapping.

Yes: To reduce heat up time and keep exhaust energy high. Reduce turbo 'lag'.

No: Will cause the turbo to have shorter life...more heat to oil...more heat to coolant....increased fastener failure due to thermal overloading.......no measurable increase in power...total waste of time.

For a street car you just need a heat shield to stop radiating heat . Wrapping has not proved to be effective unless your running Le Mans.

WARNING: Wrap around the turbo/headers/down pipe will be a fire hazard if the wrap becomes soaked in oil. It WILL catch fire...ask me how I know.

Emperor 09-16-2009 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by dkveuro (Post 1287348)
There are for and against turbo wrapping.

Yes: To reduce heat up time and keep exhaust energy high. Reduce turbo 'lag'.

No: Will cause the turbo to have shorter life...more heat to oil...more heat to coolant....increased fastener failure due to thermal overloading.......no measurable increase in power...total waste of time.

For a street car you just need a heat shield to stop radiating heat . Wrapping has not proved to be effective unless your running Le Mans.

WARNING: Wrap around the turbo/headers/down pipe will be a fire hazard if the wrap becomes soaked in oil. It WILL catch fire...ask me how I know.

VW´s love to catch fire ;)
even my stock mkII catch fire for no reason :rolleyes:

boostang504 12-11-2009 01:03 PM

i gotta show this to my bro he has the same xact car

Claudio157 12-11-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by dkveuro (Post 1287348)
There are for and against turbo wrapping.

Yes: To reduce heat up time and keep exhaust energy high. Reduce turbo 'lag'.

No: Will cause the turbo to have shorter life...more heat to oil...more heat to coolant....increased fastener failure due to thermal overloading.......no measurable increase in power...total waste of time.

For a street car you just need a heat shield to stop radiating heat . Wrapping has not proved to be effective unless your running Le Mans.

WARNING: Wrap around the turbo/headers/down pipe will be a fire hazard if the wrap becomes soaked in oil. It WILL catch fire...ask me how I know.



only today i have read this...i throw away the wrap on the turbo..

thanks for the advice!!

dkveuro 12-11-2009 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Claudio157 (Post 1295062)
only today i have read this...i throw away the wrap on the turbo..

thanks for the advice!!

Glad to see another fire hazard averted. Fire under the hood at speed is a frightening experience and since I experienced it.... ( Wrapped manifolds on a 1985 Porsche 928, in case anyone was wondering. ) .... I now carry a Fire Extinguisher in my truck.

The Asian vehicle manufactures clad the exhaust pipes and build a radiant shield around the turbo. If fitted tight enough this is best for turbo and will not catch fire. The down pipes are usually clad with steel or aluminum cladding crimped around the pipes. I noticed early Honda's had an asbestos type of packing inside the cladding.

Have seen this insulation material burst into flames too on dyno pulls. It only needs a little oil to initiate a fire when the pipe it is next to reaches oil's flash point.

If your able to fabricate a shield this will help especially if the shield hides the turbo from direct cold ram air. Don't use stainless steel as this is too hard to fabricate and cut.

Make sure the shield has good support as vibration will make shield mount areas crack.

One last thing...When a metal is heated to yellow heat or beyond..around 1200F to 1500F... and is wrapped, this cooks the metal and it erodes from the inside .

For more information check this link:
Century Performance Center, Inc. :: Exhaust Header Heat Wraps - DO NOT USE

...

Claudio157 12-16-2009 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by dkveuro (Post 1295063)
Glad to see another fire hazard averted. Fire under the hood at speed is a frightening experience and since I experienced it.... ( Wrapped manifolds on a 1985 Porsche 928, in case anyone was wondering. ) .... I now carry a Fire Extinguisher in my truck.

The Asian vehicle manufactures clad the exhaust pipes and build a radiant shield around the turbo. If fitted tight enough this is best for turbo and will not catch fire. The down pipes are usually clad with steel or aluminum cladding crimped around the pipes. I noticed early Honda's had an asbestos type of packing inside the cladding.

Have seen this insulation material burst into flames too on dyno pulls. It only needs a little oil to initiate a fire when the pipe it is next to reaches oil's flash point.

If your able to fabricate a shield this will help especially if the shield hides the turbo from direct cold ram air. Don't use stainless steel as this is too hard to fabricate and cut.

Make sure the shield has good support as vibration will make shield mount areas crack.

One last thing...When a metal is heated to yellow heat or beyond..around 1200F to 1500F... and is wrapped, this cooks the metal and it erodes from the inside .

For more information check this link:
Century Performance Center, Inc. :: Exhaust Header Heat Wraps - DO NOT USE

...


in a few months i will fabricate a shield in aluminum, for now is not necessary because it's cold here :)

But thanks to your comments i was able to save my turbo from certain death.. :D

josh19wrc 12-16-2009 09:07 PM

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that link is awesome... according to their little graphs, if I use ceramic coating, my header will actually gain material!!! Awesome! It's like a little custom stainless steel generator. I'll be RICH!!!

Atreidies 12-16-2009 09:34 PM

And here I thought steel was mined, not grown. Learn something new every day. Can you get government subsidies for a steel farm? Cuz I will build a whole fleet of race cars with ceramic coated headers if that's the case.


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