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So...i finally got around to getting started on the leaf springs conversion for my cherokee, here are some progress pics. Ignore the rust (it rained) and the fact that some things are just tacked on. This is kinda a guessing game so im a little cautious when it comes to welding ---- on permanently.

the crossmember is made of 4x4 angle, the springs are 6 inch ones for a fullsize wagoneer
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1/8 inch plate plug welded to give the crossmember a nice spot to be attatched to
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here is the stock lower control arm mount all beefed up and re-welded to the "frame"
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plans/specs:

97 two door cherokee, 5spd
front and rear dana 44s from a wagoneer (had a pic but for some reason it wouldnt upload)
overall the lift should come in around 12-14 inches in order to clear the 39.5's from my friends comanche

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39.5's?? :o

I wouldn't give up my coils for anything, but I guess if you plan on lifting that much you kinda have to. :l
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plus its cheaper nigga...long arms aint cheap unless you build them yourself, and even then joints are $$$

These tires actually came off a comanche that was lifted with coils/spacers and cleared the tires pretty well. I know this much lift is nearly rediculous but this truck will be my toy/something to run ---- over with and take through the mud holes near me. I actually recently sold my other 2 door cherokee that was lifted 2 inches with 31s and i loved it at that height, it will be interesting to see how i like this monster when its done.

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who the ----, switchs from coils ?!

holy crap man, nice welds and all ...but holy freakin cow....but what ever floats your boat...

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eh, in order to get the truck this big without custom coils, youd need to run a really really big spacer up front (the way my friend did it)...and thats kinda scary imho. This way, I get to play with my welder and hopefully ill end up with something that still rides kinda decent without breaking the bank.

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I still think leaf conversion fronts is a wasted effort. If someone can fit 37" goodyears on 4.5" of lift, you could've easily tossed some RE 7.5" coils in there and had plenty of room for 39.5" tires with some trimming.

Beside that, 39.5" tires on Dana 44's is pushing it, and that tall of a lift is just silly. Enjoy the COG.

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You should just swap in a 60 if you actually plan on 4 wheelin it.

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this truck will get no trimming...i did that on my beater jeep but this body is too nice for me to take a saw to it. The 44s should be plenty for the type of wheeling this truck will see (mostly sand and mud, there arent any real rocks or anything to climb near here). I know the COG would suck for climbing/flexing, but for mud it doesnt matter, the height can only help. Basically i got the tires and rears for next to nothing and this was the cheapest/easiest way i could make them fit since the rears have no brackets or coil buckets on them. Also, a 60 would cost a fortune and basically require me to go full width front and rear (which i dont want).

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delete

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ass...

i guess i shouldve expected this kind of response, it seems few people love leaf sprung cherokees

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Are you planning on driving this much? Have you considered the driving characteristics that having a front mounted shackle are going to bring into the game?

Most people complain that front shackled Jeeps are always all over the road and drive like doo doo.

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Anything with huge tires drives like doo doo :S

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not true if properly built.

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and the front slip yoke is prone to explode your transfer case (horror story)....... do a slip yoke elimination :y

I had the same truck but white with wood panels, im sorry did i say truck i meant submarine.

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well from reading what others have done and doing some thinking of my own, a front shackle is the only practical way to do it since otherwise you end up with a screwy spring angle unless you build the crossmember to sit a lot lower which i dont want to do. Although most people dont seem to have a problem with the front shackles when doing the leaf conversion, im prepared to build a trackbar if necessary. It seems that people have problems/complaints about both front and rear shackles, so neither is really a clear choice.

if you mean the slip yoke for the rear driveshaft, mine is a 97 so there is no risk of it popping out and dumping all the fluid from the case. Anyway, ditching the slip yoke is pretty much a given with this much llift.

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---- you anus jockey, here's what i was going for.... my cherokee at the reiter pits. i am close to belligerent now.

here's the video, i can't seem to make it into a normal link.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoid=846612050

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i guess thats what you get for trying to go around the hole lol.

my comment was in response to you saying "delete" as in delete my thread. Specs on the cherokee?

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specs on the cherokee is i sold it and i kick myself in the ass everyday now.

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no the front driveshaft..... with a shakle reversale your shackles flex the other way and if you jumps whoops or rythum sections watever you wana call it, the front end flexes opposite as oem, towards the rear, sendind you slip yoke through your baby new procces Tcase.... i think i dunno i just herd of it watever im a tard

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staright axels ftw
straight axel>ifs............. any day of the week

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umm it never had ifs...the debate is leaf springs vs coils/control arms

the slip is in the shaft itself not the yoke, so when i get the shaft made ill let them know what the full setup is...and if the shackle was in the back it would send the driveshaft towards the case on compression anyway ouldnt it

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That ---- looks beefy as ----

Good job on the fab man

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I had my Jeep in a situation like that lastnight, but not quite that bad. We were teetering on 3 wheels back and forth. I could rock it back and forth by leaning one way or the other. The GF didn't like it very much, but I kept it parked there for a while lol.
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you going to have to trim.... alot..... if you run enough lift to clear 40's, youll be on your roof leaving the mall. i was running 38" boggers on 4.5" lift.

also, d44's arent going to hold up long at all. most of the guys i run w/ were destroying built 44's on 35's and blowing up ctms on 37's.

d60 ftw

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we'll see how it all works out but im not hacking this truck to bits. tIts not that im against doing that in general, as i know the least lift with the biggest tire is usally best. Basically this truck was my DD and this isnt going to be some woods beater, it will be the truck i take out to the mudholes, etc when im in the mood to have a little fun, and otherwise it will be my ride to work (only a few miles). But if it doesnt work out as planned, theres a fullsize ford a friend of mine has that i can buy for the 60's if need be

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My Jeep is also my DD so I'd rather not hack it to ----, but when the time comes I'd like to run the biggest tire possible with the smallest lift possible. I have more than a couple sawzalls and quite a few hammers. :6 As of right now it still rides nice and everything works great so I "try" not to beat it up too much. :l

Everybody says D30's are weak as ----, but I've seen more than a few people run them with few problems. :-\

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ORRRRR.......some backyard ingenuity and a -----ton of beer ;)

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Dana 30's aren't that bad, its the 35's that are crap. My brother in law ran his with 33's, 35's, with stock shaft, with alloy shafts, hub kits, bias tires, radials, normal wheels, beadlocks, bout all the combinations you can imagine with a 35" tire and he once broke and ARB and thats it. The ARB was dubbed a defect and warrantied.

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That's what I like to hear. :6 Mine has a bit of a "whine" to it, but I think I need to change the oil or it might be the hubs/wheel bearings. I'll worry about it when something happens. :1 Oh, and my CV's are shot to hell, but still turn the wheels so it's cool. :6

IRO has a new long arm kit for my Jeep at a decent price.........
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IRO?

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Iron rock off-road. They sell on ebay too.
http://stores.ebay.com/IRON-ROCK-OFF-ROAD
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After looking at that kit, I am going with a big "eww"

They have aspects I like, and aspects I dont like.

1. I like the fact they use Rubber Bushings, good for a DD, many will knock it, but unless you're building a trailer queen designed for the rocks, all those johnny joints are overkill. My arms definitely dont limit my travel.

2. They use Heckathorn/Rough Country components, which is good and bad. I actually like their coils, they'll be stiff at first, but once you drive em and wheel em for a little while, they end up perfect as far as spring rate goes. The shocks are just kind of a blah shock, don't bother and save the money for some gas charged OME's or bilsteins

3. Way overpriced. You could do alot better for less. (aka buy springs and lift components and longarms seperately)

4. Y-link design with a single upper, good because it performs well, I run it and it works. BAD because the Y is solid, no adjustability. Let's say your springs settle 2 inches from a heavy bumper you add next year, now your castor and pinion angles are off, and you have no adjustability to dial it in. The kit assumes that the lift they give you is perfect height, and will be the same on every Jeep and it will never change.

5. Solid swaybar links, why even bother. It's obvious that if you're doing that kind of an upgrade to a WJ that you're going to use it.

6. Build the front, skip the rear? They go full on with longarms up front, but only give you a set of lowers for the rear? half-assed.

7. I am just going to assume that trackbar is crap.



Yeah its only $1500 while you'll spend $2300 on a clayton's kit, but for the extra 800 bucks, the superiority of the clayton kit makes the IRO kit look like monkey ----.

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here's a lil WJ porn for Dr. Boost

http://www.pnwjeep.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6606

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that is a really sexy wj ;D :y