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Rick 04-09-2006 04:44 AM

CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
I order a 10 point cage i having problems on the windshield post runners, this cage is designed to go around your factory dash anybody install one off these already on a CRX pictures wuld help thanks.

MikeJ-2009 04-09-2006 11:16 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
I have an 8pt in my hatch, but there was another post on HT about S&W A pillar bars not fitting correctly or being installed properly? ??? I don't remember.
Why all 10pt's in the first place? ???

UltimX 04-09-2006 05:47 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
take pics and we could probablt help u more with whats wrong. Also, why not 10 instead of 8?

stillnoturbo 04-10-2006 09:39 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
S&W cages need a lil persuading to fit. My 8pt in my Z ummm need to be slightly modded. Not bad for the price compared to like a Autopower but you get what you pay for. Still nice and cheap but not just a bolt-in affair like Autopower or a Cusco. But at a like 1/2 of the price I'll take a S&W since you can add onto it with different options.

MikeJ-2009 04-10-2006 04:04 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 

Originally Posted by UltimX
Also, why not 10 instead of 8?

In a street car?

UltimX 04-10-2006 10:44 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
Yes? Does it matter? I'm curious as to why 8 over 10 in street trim?

MikeJ-2009 04-11-2006 06:30 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
If you get in an accident, your realize there's a bar right in front of your head? That's not safe at all. The 8 pt is more than enough for the streets.

absolutezroo 04-11-2006 07:44 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
maybe he's just gonna wear a helmet when he drives to the grocery store.... ???

anthony88 04-11-2006 09:43 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
i got a s&w 10pt. in my 79malibu and we had to take the A-pillar bars to the muffler shop to make them fit

MikeJ-2009 04-11-2006 11:07 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
yeah S&W makes a good 8 pt that still needs notching here and there, but when they get into 10pt ---- and have to make all the bars meet up it's fuxxored. A little more than notching in that case.

Final score:
8pt 2
10pt 0
>:D

90dx 04-11-2006 11:11 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
8 point all the way.I bought the Competition Engineering kit and it is a U weld kit,appears to line up well and is siper cheap.I will post some pictures of the install soon.

Eville140 04-12-2006 08:03 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
maybe he needs the extra points to pass tech for the time/speed he will be running?

Later
Randy

MikeJ-2009 04-12-2006 11:35 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 

Originally Posted by Eville140
maybe he needs the extra points to pass tech for the time/speed he will be running?

Later
Randy

I believe that would be 9.99 or quicker.

Eville140 04-14-2006 07:10 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I believe that would be 9.99 or quicker.

That's the reason I went with 12pts on mine :)

Later
Randy

Rick 04-21-2006 12:57 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 
8 10 12 Not shure whats my the reason i got it becouse i like top speed 3 digits i got it up to 170 mph on the freaway but im scared to keep going the engine want to keep going but fealds like suspention is not going to taked it i trying to hit 200mph, if i loos control at that speed the crx well desintegrad so i need a cage engine is B17 at 12 psi and 50 shots to spool a T70
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...c/ef558e27.jpg
bar number 1 no idea were is going and tech suport don't eavent try they hate import they have no idea only muscle car but they take import money so we figured the pilar bars, bar 2 i tinking abaut place tha bar there or somewere araund there and make the x on the doors but is going to be a bitch daily drive with 5 point harnes and kirky racing seats and before flame abaut the cage is not finish ok and we all no i can't spell and im a retard for try to write my second language i wen to scool in my contry they speak spanish sory i dident have time to go scool for english we can talk in spanish if you like me to so we past that ok we all no i cant spell

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/ef558e17.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e/ef558e04.jpg

90dx 04-21-2006 01:22 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
English is good enough for me.That doesnt look to bad at all but Im no expert.Why dont you put just one door bar in going diagonal towards front of car then you can still get in without having to pretzel yourself.

Tom-Guy 04-21-2006 01:29 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
If you get in an accident, your realize there's a bar right in front of your head? That's not safe at all. The 8 pt is more than enough for the streets.

Pad the bar, -----o.

The biggest problem with getting into an accident with 88-91 chassis is that in a front end collision of 30 mph, the other car is invariably higher and it drives up your hood, directly through the windshield, and takes out your face.

Bar in front of your head, or bumper occupying the space where you used to have a head. Your call.

ososlohatch 04-22-2006 05:36 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Pad the bar, -----o.

The biggest problem with getting into an accident with 88-91 chassis is that in a front end collision of 30 mph, the other car is invariably higher and it drives up your hood, directly through the windshield, and takes out your face.

Bar in front of your head, or bumper occupying the space where you used to have a head. Your call.

i agree .. collision rate for front end is 5 mph on a 88 or 89

Tom-Guy 04-23-2006 12:14 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
Steve a la mode can argue subjective morality and win via word games and practical racism, but he sucks at cars, design, and engineering.

MikeJ-2009 04-23-2006 10:51 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis


Bar in front of your head, or bumper occupying the space where you used to have a head. Your call.

You said it. Make the call. Every front end collision you'll have your head in a bar and your knees in the other. But not every from end collision is driving up your hood. I pick 8pt. Subjective word games or practical racism is more than enough engineering to figure out you don't want to drive around with a bar in front of your face. [word game] I mean, why not have people ride in the back seat too, and just pad the bar. :S[/word game]

Tom-Guy 04-23-2006 10:55 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
::)

I dunno exactly where S&W places the frontmost bar on their halo, but if it is tucked right at the top of the windscreen, and the monkey driving wears a seatbelt, head-to-bar contact isn't going to happen.

MikeJ-2009 04-23-2006 11:02 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
Ok, then put a 10pt in your street car. It doesn't matter to me.

Tom-Guy 04-23-2006 11:26 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
So you have nothing to say about whether or not the driver's head will hit the front halo bar of an S&W 10 pt in an accident?

You know... it's kinda real ------- pointless to put a structural safety member right where the driver/occupant is guaranteed to brain themselves on it. I think you just owned youself, by opening your mouth in the first place.

MikeJ-2009 04-23-2006 11:41 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
I know you're probably itching for an intellectual argument to fill your Sunday, but I'm realy not taking the bait.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e/ef558e04.jpg


No, I can't see the driver hitting his head on anything, in any situation whatsoever. :S


Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
So you have nothing to say about whether or not the driver's head will hit the front halo bar of an S&W 10 pt in an accident?

Are you asking me to analyse an accident that hasn't happened? ??? Without knowing what accident, if any it will take for someone to hit thier head on at least one of those bars, I'll stick to not putting 10pt cages in my car. You put the 10pt in your street car, laugh at honda or whoever that doesn't put one in, and when you crash, we'll sit down and analyse it on a Sunday for you. That is, if you haven't killed yourself on the jungle gym.

90dx 04-23-2006 12:47 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
I kinda tend to agree with Stelath on this one.Im tall enough my head would be beside that top bar runing along the roof to the front.I dont think foam is gonna help if i bang my head off there at a serious force.I went with a 8 point roll bar to try and keep the roof from collapsing on my head if i roll over as I like to drive rather aggressive through some mountian and country roads around here.The fact somehting might keep the me from wearing the dash is a nice thought though as your def right any CRX/Civic i see the front end is perfect for a half ton truck to ride up. :-\

Wayne_curr 04-24-2006 10:37 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
I am no expert on cages but I will say that the fitment of that cage looks way off. There shouldn't be such a huge gap between the bars and the pillars. And is it really possible to get a rex to 200mph? Never heard of such a thing...

MikeJ-2009 04-25-2006 12:03 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
Anything is possible, but I remember the salt flats civic hitting like 202 and it was in the magazine as a great accomplishment, so I'd be surprised if I had a 200mph crx and could even find a road long enough to get it up there.

Tom-Guy 04-25-2006 11:03 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
Gee, I dunno, I've been in an ED with a faulty seat belt when I flew upward and hit one of the OEM frame rails in the ceilling, right where it's joined to the top of the doorframe and pretty stout. I cracked the plastic crap, my neck hurt for a month. I can't see a foam padded bar being anything but better, at worst it is the same.



Originally Posted by Wayne_curr
I am no expert on cages but I will say that the fitment of that cage looks way off. There shouldn't be such a huge gap between the bars and the pillars. And is it really possible to get a rex to 200mph? Never heard of such a thing...

Well, it's a generic kit, so the fitment is never perfect-perfect. The halo should be tucked up higher against the roofline, etc. You can probably fit a finger between main hoop and ceilling liner. *shrug*

As for getting a CRX to 200 mph? Sure you can, but it's going to need some work with aerodynamics, and to have more weight added for stability. The Black Car pulls easily to 145 in 4th gear between mutant revlimit, LS gearing, and the Mickey I-tread's OD. No one has had the cajones to hold it down in 5th, I'm sure it gears out in the 170-range with wind resistance not slowing it much. Just takes a bit of power and you're golden.

thermal 04-25-2006 05:00 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
damn... all these years I've been coming to this board, I didnt know that JD and SM didnt get along......

.... good thread tho. I'm gettng ready to get mine also

MikeJ-2009 04-25-2006 06:20 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
We get along, but once a month he feels the need to follow me around the forum and try to prove his intellectual supremesy. I've learned to laugh.

Tom-Guy 04-25-2006 08:35 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
Dislike? I signed up for Pinks duty with the sole intention of going to TC and getting Steve------ drunk. And tutoring him in basic mechanics, of course.

Rick 04-29-2006 07:26 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
First im not trying to ofended anybody ok but i cant tell for the argument the some of you have a slow car or im doing somting diferent for the people the have a crx with a bosted DOHC VTEC know what im talking abaut if no't you doing someting wrong my car pull to 160 eazy at 10 psi 5 gear 6800 rpm these is going up hill on freway i don't have the balls to try on the strait line or down hill i feal like i have a chance to end up and one piece going up hill, how i can tell im doing 160 becouse HKS turbo timer now if you having got to that speed yet as i imagine you are dreaming you self doing that you are picture your self wearing a OEM seat belt i have a 5 points harnes the only think i cant tell you is you cant ligt a cigarret wen you straped you can't eavent turn you head to look back you depend on you mirrors so you get the idea you become part of the cage the only way you hit any bar is if the cage colaps.

look at these pictures now im not calling these people stupid, ok but can you imagine how dome you wuld feald if you spend that time and money on the engine and you have one of these accidents, people going to think how dome these fuu was all tha money on tha old piss of ---- crx he put on the engine and he could get a roll cage.
Now these people was driving a OEM car and for werever reason hapend what hapend to theme i can only think they never bolive is going to hapend to theme, in my case i wan to see were the digits on the hks go on the straight level AND EMPTY highway with the pedal all the way on 5 gear at 12 psi 8200rpm im not going to hit 200mph but im going to fin wat is the limit of my car i diden't build all these just for the ---- of it i wan to run these ting all the way but like Joseph Davis said and i know he is ben there before i don't have the cojones without the cage o i don't wan to feald stupit wen i die if i crash and i maked i post some picture becouse is 60% chances of end up like these pictures.

the firsts pictures is the one tipe of accident im afreid
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/..._vs_truck1.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...truck_sa_1.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad588.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad560.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad520.jpg
http://www.car-accidents.com/2005-Car-pics/3-23-05.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad599.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...in-brazil3.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...ho_brazil2.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...ar_vs_bus2.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...r_vs_bus10.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...cidebycar2.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...cidebycar4.jpg

you get the idea now im not saing the cage is going to prevent these to hapend to me but i try to maked as sefe i can or i can aford, can you imagine if i maked i just going to star over or quit ok here is and exemple people sky dive way they bring a reserve parachute higth speed is just diferent flavor, i cant star over if these hapend to me check these vidio http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...haftermath.wmv

i bether think is going to hapend the end up like these people they dident imagine they wuld go like these i bet if they did they well have a full cage, what is a bar in front of you face is going to afect wen you end up like the vidio if you wuld asked hem before he die he well put no one alise 3 bars it wont hurt to try hey im not asking to prome wrong or star a figth these is what i bolive and you can't maked me bolive diferent is just my opinion these wuld no't be fun if we all Think the same all i ask was were the front bar go but never mind i can see not all you have a full cage but hey i like to read some of you opinions make cents some of you maked me roll of funy ---- you type and some of you just dont eavent know what you are talking abaut but if you build a faster car one day you know what im talking abaut at 160 the line on the freway star to turn in to a stright white line and you feal like you floting in the air and for some reason alot stupet ---- star to go to you mind what is i get a flat tire or one of my tie rod or ball joit sid ---- these and give up on me or the worst a fuking 18 weals truk is in front at the next curb and you start to tink a fuking bars structure and 5 point harnes well maked me feald bether end stop all the pictures flashing of my head and consentred on the road and we know at 200 the cage probabli wont help but maked you feal bether


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totalblowup 05-13-2006 01:36 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
god damn those pics made me sick im putting a cage in my crx ,, ---- that armor plate that bitch

eastern rider 05-14-2006 12:46 AM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
I like the big X in the back

89shithatch 05-17-2006 11:39 PM

Re: CRX S&W 10 POINT ROLL CAGE HELP "updated pictures"
 
if you get hit that hard, the roll cage isnt going to protect you or your car/

Originally Posted by Rick
First im not trying to ofended anybody ok but i cant tell for the argument the some of you have a slow car or im doing somting diferent for the people the have a crx with a bosted DOHC VTEC know what im talking abaut if no't you doing someting wrong my car pull to 160 eazy at 10 psi 5 gear 6800 rpm these is going up hill on freway i don't have the balls to try on the strait line or down hill i feal like i have a chance to end up and one piece going up hill, how i can tell im doing 160 becouse HKS turbo timer now if you having got to that speed yet as i imagine you are dreaming you self doing that you are picture your self wearing a OEM seat belt i have a 5 points harnes the only think i cant tell you is you cant ligt a cigarret wen you straped you can't eavent turn you head to look back you depend on you mirrors so you get the idea you become part of the cage the only way you hit any bar is if the cage colaps.

look at these pictures now im not calling these people stupid, ok but can you imagine how dome you wuld feald if you spend that time and money on the engine and you have one of these accidents, people going to think how dome these fuu was all tha money on tha old piss of ---- crx he put on the engine and he could get a roll cage.
Now these people was driving a OEM car and for werever reason hapend what hapend to theme i can only think they never bolive is going to hapend to theme, in my case i wan to see were the digits on the hks go on the straight level AND EMPTY highway with the pedal all the way on 5 gear at 12 psi 8200rpm im not going to hit 200mph but im going to fin wat is the limit of my car i diden't build all these just for the ---- of it i wan to run these ting all the way but like Joseph Davis said and i know he is ben there before i don't have the cojones without the cage o i don't wan to feald stupit wen i die if i crash and i maked i post some picture becouse is 60% chances of end up like these pictures.

the firsts pictures is the one tipe of accident im afreid
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2005/..._vs_truck1.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...truck_sa_1.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad588.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad560.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad520.jpg
http://www.car-accidents.com/2005-Car-pics/3-23-05.jpg
http://67.19.177.10/newphotos/bad/bad599.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...in-brazil3.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...ho_brazil2.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...ar_vs_bus2.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...r_vs_bus10.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...cidebycar2.jpg
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...cidebycar4.jpg

you get the idea now im not saing the cage is going to prevent these to hapend to me but i try to maked as sefe i can or i can aford, can you imagine if i maked i just going to star over or quit ok here is and exemple people sky dive way they bring a reserve parachute higth speed is just diferent flavor, i cant star over if these hapend to me check these vidio http://www.ogrish.com/archives/2006/...haftermath.wmv

i bether think is going to hapend the end up like these people they dident imagine they wuld go like these i bet if they did they well have a full cage, what is a bar in front of you face is going to afect wen you end up like the vidio if you wuld asked hem before he die he well put no one alise 3 bars it wont hurt to try hey im not asking to prome wrong or star a figth these is what i bolive and you can't maked me bolive diferent is just my opinion these wuld no't be fun if we all Think the same all i ask was were the front bar go but never mind i can see not all you have a full cage but hey i like to read some of you opinions make cents some of you maked me roll of funy ---- you type and some of you just dont eavent know what you are talking abaut but if you build a faster car one day you know what im talking abaut at 160 the line on the freway star to turn in to a stright white line and you feal like you floting in the air and for some reason alot stupet ---- star to go to you mind what is i get a flat tire or one of my tie rod or ball joit sid ---- these and give up on me or the worst a fuking 18 weals truk is in front at the next curb and you start to tink a fuking bars structure and 5 point harnes well maked me feald bether end stop all the pictures flashing of my head and consentred on the road and we know at 200 the cage probabli wont help but maked you feal bether


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