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Gino 03-15-2007 02:57 PM

Which wideband to choose?
 
Right now im looking to purchase wideband o2 sensor. Ive got it narrowed down to three that i would like to choose from. I was thinking of picking up the AEM uego all in one, the PLX M-300 or the Innovate LC-1 with stand alone gauge. Anyone have any experience with any of them? Some oppinions would be appreciated. Thanks!

TorganFM 03-15-2007 04:18 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
From what I've read, LC-1 with the O-Meter is the way to go on a budget.

SpankedYA! 03-15-2007 07:55 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
budget whatever! Thats what I would buy anyway. Get it from www.-------------

Cyberdx16 03-15-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
budget whatever! Thats what I would buy anyway. Get it from www.-------------

agree LC-1 is not a bad choice at all, especially since they've just released an updated logworks 2, which allows you to log with their new software "PGMFI"

HMTguy 03-15-2007 09:16 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
I have an LM-1, which is the ---- but it has extra features that I don't really need/use.

If I was to buy one now, it would be the LC-1.

Inquisition 03-15-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 

Originally Posted by Cyberdx16
agree LC-1 is not a bad choice at all, especially since they've just released an updated logworks 2, which allows you to log with their new software "PGMFI"

Who cares about that software? If it doesn't lambda log, I'm not interested. The other sensors are nice to monitor, but lambda log is one of the key functions of tuning via tables effectively.

Chris Harris 03-16-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
Who cares about that software? If it doesn't lambda log, I'm not interested. The other sensors are nice to monitor, but lambda log is one of the key functions of tuning via tables effectively.

It might help if you actually tried it out before posting what you do not know about it...

It was designed to log the Crome/PGMFI datalogging protocol that comes out of the ECU into the Logworks software, so yes it will log lambda amongst other things.

Inquisition 03-16-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
The switching of two windows effectively makes lambda log worthless. The whole point of lambda log is logging directly on the fuel map so you can select regions that need work and edit them. Switching back and forth while tuning is just a total pain in the ass. Now if you want to tune a couple of cars, its something one can easily deal with but if you want to tune a number of cars, its just going to be a pain pressing alt+tab every 30 seconds to make changes. I take features for what they are. This logworks package is nothing special considering Freelog and ECUcontrol already exist and Crome, Neptune, and Hondata all do a good job of logging as well.

Chris Harris 03-16-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
The switching of two windows effectively makes lambda log worthless. The whole point of lambda log is logging directly on the fuel map so you can select regions that need work and edit them. Switching back and forth while tuning is just a total pain in the ass. Now if you want to tune a couple of cars, its something one can easily deal with but if you want to tune a number of cars, its just going to be a pain pressing alt+tab every 30 seconds to make changes. I take features for what they are. This logworks package is nothing special considering Freelog and ECUcontrol already exist and Crome, Neptune, and Hondata all do a good job of logging as well.

Crome, Neptune and Hondata are all 'PRO' products with built in logging...yes this is optimal, BUT the reason it isnt worthless is because the data sent to LOGWORKS is the exact data stream that Crome/Freelog receives but instead of having to deal with any Lambda voltage offsets, you now have the EXACT lambda value plugged into the maps.

LogWorks is free...and much less painful to setup than some of the other free programs out there not to mention it will log a STOCK ecu as well...

ifly87 03-18-2007 12:16 AM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
I have the PLX-M300 and love it. It is very easy to use and was easy to install.

Gino 03-18-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
Anyone have any experience with using the AEM and crome? I have found a good deal on a new AEM one so looking for some oppinions.

sikcrx89 03-18-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
i run the AEM WB but i run TE but a far as the aem wb i love it so far.. im sure there wil be no problem usng it in crome just mke sure you set your WB correction in crome..

Tom-Guy 03-18-2007 04:50 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
I don't like the AEM unit much.

I have and still own LC-1, PLX, and TechEdge 2A0/2C0 and each has it's ups and downs. LC-1 is where I direct most people... it's not quite as dead nuts simple as the PLX M-series, three wires dur dur dur hotrex could figure it out, but it's freaking simple and easy to use for all the features it has.

I still like the TE stuff, but it grew out of a hobbyist effort and the software interfaces are crusty, hard to maneuver, and difficult to set up.

Gino 03-18-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
Any reasons as to why you dislike the AEM?

Tom-Guy 03-18-2007 09:42 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
I've seen a couple miscalibrated by .75 AFR, the one car foremost in my mind had stock K-series wideband, and the Innovate and NTK units maintained by the dyno, all agreeing the AEM unit read lean.

kamilk69 03-18-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
i just picked up a Lc-1 with a moates O-Meter from xecron, and i must say it ------- badass, datalogging with logworks and with my sct software works perfectly. i recomend it 100%

Chris Harris 03-18-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
Innovate just came out with new 'DB units' as well...i need to stock up on them :)

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/db.php

Not as cost effective as the Moates unit, but round and more similar to the original XD series gauges.

TorganFM 03-19-2007 08:23 AM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
Those DB's are really sharp looking

BoostedBSeries 03-27-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Which wideband to choose?
 
i have a plx M-250 that i paid $100 for, it works awesome, and everyone i know who ownes a PLX loves them. if i were to buy one brand new though, LC1+O-Meter is the ONLY way to go.


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