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Where are you guys cruising at??? (AFR)

Old 01-20-2008, 03:43 PM
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Okay, i am all about best economy too, not in boost but while cruizing. I was reading on PGMFI that some dude tuned his car getting 40+ miles per gallon and running mid 15 afrs crusing with part throttle. Right now i am in the 13.5 range cruizing part throttle, level road, 70 miles and hour, 3800-4000 rpms, 16-19 hgs, with base timeing that b16s have, 450 dsms. I ran one tank never hitting boost once, driving grandma style and i am getting around 27mpgs. How lean is good, can i take it to 14.7 or even a little higher as long as i listen for det What do you guys suggest. Also what is ideally the best afr under a load in vaccuum, espescially right before getting into boost??

its a 2000 civic si.
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14.7 is what the stock o2 sensor *tries* to get the afr at, so why wouldn't it be ok?

I've run low 15's with no problems. This was on an 8.8:1 compression ratio engine tho.

I tuned an h22 that would start to hear detonation at anything above 15 with 93 octane.
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:25 PM
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14.7 is what the stock o2 sensor *tries* to get the afr at, so why wouldn't it be ok?

I've run low 15's with no problems. This was on an 8.8:1 compression ratio engine tho.

I tuned an h22 that would start to hear detonation at anything above 15 with 93 octane.
DUH! i don't know what i am thinking :1 . I do read that alot of people keep it at 13.5 in vaccuum, i guess its cause they dont want to mess anything up. SO then under a load in the vaccuum side but almost wot, would 13.5 be a good area or little richer or leaner
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Bone runs his super lean, on his d15.
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:52 PM
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at 70 at about 4k 15 vac i run 15.0 at high load about 13.8 with 9.0 cpr
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vac afr's like stock, once you get to 0 you better start adding some fuel or something. why throw your mileage away?
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:05 PM
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Run it as lean as possible without misfiring...

Nothing is going to detonate, part throttle cruising...there just isnt enough cylinder pressure to make that happen.
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:22 PM
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yea, i ran my d15b super lean cruising. i had a super small turbo that boosted in every gear no matter what. i dont remember what the afr's were but i was getting 35mpg's with a 50/50 mix of city and highway driving. one i start driving again in march i will be shotting for 40mpg's highway. if there is no load on it, then it will be hard to hurt it
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i usually cruise mid 15s until about 7hng, then its about 13.5-ish until i hot boost
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:33 AM
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Remember when you want to run leaner the burn takes longer so advancing your timing will be advisable.
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