WAIT I found something else and MOATES.net makes it!!!
 

Is is it true??? has datalogging become easier to hook up?????? and using USB at that!

http://www.moates.net/product_info.p...products_id=78

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That's pretty cool. Moates gets my votes. :-*

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good buy at $35, wonder how well it works.

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yeah I'm gonna wait for some guinea pigs to give it a try first :P

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advantage over nokia usb line?

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ummmmm, bulky and overpriced if you ask me :-\

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Bulky yes, overpriced..... not if you wanna stop all the madness with wrong nokia cables. besides, its not like its for tuning. i dont mind that lil box. I sent Moates an email with a few ?'s about the unit, hopefully he will reply soon. i think this unit is as simple as it get all in one package. no more fussing with chips, converters and such.

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well, the nokia usb cables are very simple to get to work if you understand how they work and what you're trying to achieve, and they cost 30 dollars less and are less bulky. what do you mean "no more chips, converters and such"? the 'converter' is just inside the box, just like it is on the nokia cables, and on the serial cables, it's all the same principle, no matter what, it has to convert ttl to rs232. you still have to solder the 4 pin header at cn2, just like any other data logging device, and in my opinion, if you're capable of doing that, your capable of getting a 5 dollar nokia cable to work. hell, i honestly prefer serial, no drivers to install or anything, simply as straight up plug and play as you can get for data logging. with any usb device you'll have to install the appropriate drivers, which 9 times out of 10 is where people run in to problems with usb data logging, not usually the cable itself.

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http://www.nehondatuning.com/HMT/USB_pic.jpg

I'll have this as soon as I figure out the pinout and get it logging correctly. :)

$27.

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shameless plug ;)

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[quote I'll have this as soon as I figure out the pinout and get it logging correctly.

$27.
Where can you get that?

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I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you :-\

I'll have it available next week as long as I get it fully tested out this week.

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Oh, your one of them guys huh. thats cool, i just wanted to know.

Re: WAIT I found something else and MOATES.net makes it!!!
 

...back on topic from the sales bullshit...

I have an early release of the Moates datalogger. It works. I'm working with Craig to make some minor adjustments to it. All in all, it works fine.

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You may want to get with me offline, I can definitely help you out. There are a few other related hardware things in the MoatesMill very near-term.

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Craig, you made that clear jelly thing? I think that is what he's talking about for that pinout.

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lol, the 'jelly fish logger', could be a good sales pitch :D

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No, I didn't make that one. However, I've been making very similar devices for some time now. I made one up a few months back that was tiny like that, but I wasn't happy with the design and enclosure possibilities were pretty limited. Thought about the shrink-tube thing, but wasn't thrilled. Might be the way to go though. I mean, every dollar you save on this sort of thing is a dollar you can spend on other stuff like beer and gas.

I've got something even a little better in the works. It's actually going to be smaller and maybe even cheaper. Dead-simple to install, with a pinout that is customized to match up with the CN2 pinout. You could solder the thing into place directly, snap it on with a socket header, or attach it with a short standard 4-pin cable. Should give some versatility for folks that want a little more DIY as well as those that want to plug and go. I can share a preview if you like.

Anyways, something to think about if you guys haven't already sourced mass quantities of that other little doodad. And even if so, there's always next time ;^).

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Craig, you know I'm always here to test new toys. ;)

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i just ordered that HULOG. I trust Craigs devices. I'll be sure to put up a review on this. Keep up the good quality work Craig!

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Got your email and replied...definitely willing to work with you on anything, better, cheaper smaller and more functional :)

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woo hoo! i just got the HULOG in today! pretty cool device. its small and it even comes with the wire harness clip so you can solder it in the ecu! i didnt get a chance to use it yet. i will when i do try it out.

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OK, here's the new piece. It's not a copy, so don't even suggest it. Scratch design, actually a subset of what I've been making for a long while. I might even be able to make it smaller.

http://www.moates.net/images/hondalog.jpg

Note that the pinout is exactly the same as the Honda CN2, and it can be mounted in several different ways. More to come on that...

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You need it tested... let me know. ;)

My new lappy doesn't have serial so, you're my only hope. :)

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OK, it's up and running. Looks like it'll pan out just fine. If you need something like this, just come a lookin'....

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You guys buy gas? I've been using my old stock HF pump, and 50' of tubing + speaker wire I smurfed off a friend, and late at night I drop it... nevermind. :o


Seriously, I hate bandwagons, but Craig Moates has given my garrulous ass his home phone number to call after business hours if I need anything, or just want to bitch him out about anything. He's helped me out with replacement parts + small components to repair the the ---- I broke because I was drunk + clumsy. Hey, I don't pay for gasoline, I can afford to be drunk most of the time. Customer service like that is few + far between.

All hail the MoatesBorg! Chris, you need to buy dataloggers from him in quantity at five cents on the dollar. Or you will be assimilated!

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Werd.

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i have craig's phone number, shall we all sit down for a cup o' tea?

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Now that is innovative. The converter and cable is exactly what everyone else out there is offering. Way to go above and beyond with the new product craig.

Edit: I am not being sarcastic. Seriusly craig big ups on the new product. It is definately something beyond the common cable. I like it.

Some people here I guess can't understand that I was really complimenting craig on his product.

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Cray, you're a tool.

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Let's see... to the best of my knowledge this Cray person neither DOES anything like Craig, or you Jason, that is beyond what the average 22 y/old riceboy should be capable of. I mean * please * educate me, Cray, as to who + what you are, why you're so speshul, and what makes your commentary a shining and glorious thing for all to behold?

Unlike some here, again this is to the best of my knowledge, I can't attribute anything special to you... but what do I know?

Sarcasm good!

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I think you have him pegged pretty good ;)

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So I am a tool for what reason?

I wasn't being sarcastic. I was actually saying that the new item craig made was cool. It was a step above what everyone else was making. I don't do anything like Craig or Jason. They make a lot of original products and have a far better knowledge of this stuff than me. I don't do anything beyond what the average 22y/o does.

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..it came across to me as massive sarcasm.. oh well.

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I realized that after I read the way people took it. Thats a cool item though, the micro sized converter.

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:-\

Cray, if you ever come through western North Carolina, feel free to drop by the house. I'll invite some of the guys over, we'll all get drunk, and you can shock me with the stungun. Okay?

Re: WAIT I found something else and MOATES.net makes it!!!
 

eh it's alright. I know you guys thought you were defending craig.

You took the time to look up my B-day in your rant though :-*

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I was actually looking for a webpage with writeups I could pick apart. I'm a vindictive son of a bitch like that.

"This isn't journalism. This is god damned revenge." - Lewis W. Green

Lewis taught me how to fire fully automatic weapons when I was a child, and was in many ways a father figure. Growing up I proofread one of his books, and had the pleasure of watching him conduct several smear campaigns with his weekly "scandal sheet," The Independant Torch. Mom + I rolled up fifteen minutes late to bail him out of jail (someone else had already bailed him) the time he cold cocked an Asheville Citizen-Times reporter who made a smartassed remark. His latest book, Of Human Interest, is a must-read if you want to see how Dumb Rednecks do things.

Sorry to say, I may be every bit the bastard, but I'm only half the drunk. One can aspire...