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RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 09:24 AM

vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
I'm trying to install my vortech btm on my car & it isn't wanting to start up,
I started this last night & I'm waking up & trying it again,
anyways,
heres what I have: w/stock ignition

http://www.msdignition.com/forum/arc...hp?t-3077.html
http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/frm23950.pdf

any help would be appreciated,
the car turns & turns,
when I change the ground area...to a different spot it turns & starts for a sec. then dies,

thanks

SpankedYA! 05-20-2007 10:56 AM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
God BTM's are ghey....

RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 11:40 AM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
u r 2

SpankedYA! 05-20-2007 12:13 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
Yes, but at least I know enough not to use that garbage.

RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 12:19 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
lol...I would rather use this garbage then be gay :-X
but nice come back

HMTdmc 05-20-2007 12:31 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
Any retard can install a btm. For ---- sake you linked the instructions with your question.

RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 01:11 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
lol...yea,
it just dont work man,
I'm having my mechanic come down in about an hour to look at it,

you guys are ------ retarded to post & have no facts/info with your posts,
why would you post & have nothing to say?

do you guys read the rules?

I'm trying to get help & you guys arent doing nothing but wasting my time.

HMTdmc 05-20-2007 01:31 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
Connect the Ground to the negative battery cable where it grounds to the body. always. The white wire from the btm is the signal wire. it connects to your ignition signal wire. Thats usaully on an external coil honda a black wire with a white or maybe yellow stripe to find it use a test light hook one side to the positive battery terminal and the other to the wire your testing. crank the motor and watch the test light. If it pulses with the starter then thats your ignition signal hook it to the white wire. The large yellow wire going into the coild plug is usaully 12v switched from ignition. use it to power the btm. If this doesn't work the btm is broken

BTM's don't help at all. Get a chipped ecu and tune it the right way crome turboedit ubergayda bre whatever you choose. with a honda youve got no reason to use a btm anymore. You see alot of guys in the turbo projects on here using them but those projects were from the oold crx resource sight in 99-2000 ish when none of the software was writen yet and noone knew how to chip an ecu yet.

RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 05:13 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 

Originally Posted by Dmc1
Connect the Ground to the negative battery cable where it grounds to the body. always. The white wire from the btm is the signal wire. it connects to your ignition signal wire. Thats usaully on an external coil honda a black wire with a white or maybe yellow stripe to find it use a test light hook one side to the positive battery terminal and the other to the wire your testing. crank the motor and watch the test light. If it pulses with the starter then thats your ignition signal hook it to the white wire. The large yellow wire going into the coild plug is usaully 12v switched from ignition. use it to power the btm. If this doesn't work the btm is broken

thanks alot for the respond...things you've said,(i havent tried)
but you didn't name all the wires out...heres what I've got:(you said)

black - ground
red - 12 volt source
white - coil + w/black & yellow wire
orange???
there is no yellow wire,but I have a red & orange,,,


I think I may be lost...I have 4 wires,black,red,white,orange
black - ground
red - 12volt source
orange?
white?

my mechanic came by & hooked it up,even tried tricking the ecu & module by doing some crazy things,
even hooked up a second coil & used a test light,
anyways,
its a points btm,which my civic doesn't use points ignition,
the vortech btm dont havethe magnetic pickup,(which I need)

so I either need another box or a I could use a 12volt relay...(whatever he said)

but...
I am willing to try what you said,
because its somthing we havent tried & I dunno....
but if you had a clear detail about the other wire....wires,
I would give it a shot,
I was just about to sell it & buy another one with a magnetic pickup...

thanks

Walter 05-20-2007 05:51 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
convert to OBD1 ...

RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 06:00 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
good idea,,,but has nothing to do with what I want to do.

HMTdmc 05-20-2007 09:33 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
I didn't name all the wires because their all labeled and named in the instructions

------ are you using the the stock coil or not? Oh wait you haven't even said what car your Installing this thing on. Give us more info if you expect help.

RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 09:37 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
did you not read the title?
it says civic,
I have a d15 btw with mpfi & using stock coil,wouldn't matter anyway would it?
its the same thing if it was external or internal....
the wires arent labeled....
& there are no instructions,
I'm not black btw,
I removed it,its for sale on ebay:
I have a msd btm coming..it has a magnetic pickup which our hondas use instead of points ignition,
thanks for your help man!

HMTdmc 05-20-2007 09:58 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
Yes it does matter if your using an msd coil or the stock coil using the msd coil is easier to figure out.

Look the one you have will work. the white signal wire from the btm goes to the Black wire with the white stripe coming out of your stock coil. that is the signal wire that tells the btm to fire.

The GROUND wire from the btm goes to the negative battery terminal.

The 12v ground goes to the big thick YELLOW WIRE THAT PLUGS INTO YOUR STOCK COIL.

Orange is coil negetive from the btm. Use a haynes manual for you cat to find out what that is on your cars stock harness.

ANd thats all it is ------.



RandysSOHC 05-20-2007 10:34 PM

Re: vortech BTM installing on a civic
 
nah...i dont get that,
I dont have any big YELLOW wire in my dizzy,,,anywhere,

the positive coil wire is black & yellow,
negative wire to the coil is white & blue,

your way may work,
but the guys waiting on payment,,,,70.00 shipped for a msd btm 5462 with a magnetic pickup
& I've listed mine on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7649&rd=1&rd=1



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