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Walter 12-11-2006 03:56 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
yes.. that's what im seeing..

scttydb411 12-11-2006 09:58 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
3.5 yrs ago, afc hack, techedge wideband, and long stretches of road. came out great, 169whp @ 7psi on y7 w/ 13t.

now...same engine and setup, but using cromepro @ 10psi pushing 206whp.

only one major catastrophe in 3 years on the dyno (shattered sleeve)...well two, but i don't take responsibility for the other since the person wrenching on the cams didn't realize each mark was 2* and moved them 6* instead of 3* after i suggested not to adjust the cams because we didn't know how much clearance there was before piston/valve contact. needless to say there was contact.


noboostedEGo 12-13-2006 12:44 AM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
I whipped up a crome basemap for my d15b7 with a t25. Let's just say a few negatives added up and it blew up.....way too soon.

My wg actuator ended up being frozen so i was hitting upwards of 12 psi

I forgot to put in colder plugs ( :1 :1 :1)

and I wish I would've done a better job adjusting my z6 map for a smoother transition to boost (because boost tools can only be imported from a p30 map in crome)

It would bog like a bitch when i'd tip into boost. There are my nuggets of wisdom.

Number one tuning tip!!!! When you first make a thread about your setup, post porn to please the hmt gods. Lack of this on my part has also been accredited as a cause of my motor failure.

Walter 12-13-2006 03:09 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
mm interest info...what happen if you tune a car and just blow it? u need to pay for it? :S

noboostedEGo 12-13-2006 04:18 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 

Originally Posted by Walter
mm interest info...what happen if you tune a car and just blow it? u need to pay for it? :S

bahaha! What?????

Typically yes you need a new motor.......is that what you're asking?

Walter 12-13-2006 04:34 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
noo...if you tune an car of some guy.. and just u blow his engine... what would happen? in the case that engine be build and looks very good..

HMTdmc 12-13-2006 04:54 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
Well Walter it depends on what you the tuner and the owner of the car agreed upon before you tuned the car. Was their a contract made that said if you damage his property that you will replace it.
Or did you say look dude I don't have any experiance at this I can try to tune your car.

Fault not walters if blow engine :P

Walter 12-13-2006 05:14 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
what i thought ... i c.. cya!

scttydb411 12-14-2006 10:13 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
typically if you're tuning a car for someone it would be assumed you have experience. if you're at a dyno shop a tuner will/should have you sign a damage waiver stating you are the owner or owners agent and are aware that the car/motor will be put through stress while testing. signing the waiver acknowledges this and also releases the shop and tuner from any damage that may occur.

a damaged/blown motor can occur for a number of reasons and isn't always related to the tune, but a combination of things (mechanical, tune, etc) up to/including the tune.

some people call this the pop-it waiver. i won't tune a car w/o the owner signing a waiver. unfortuneately, too many honda/acura performance cars are put together on a shoestring budget and not always correctly (if you know what i mean).

dirtygsr94 12-18-2006 08:46 PM

Re: for tuners.. i was wondering..
 
first car i tuned is my current gsr runs great just took some practice for me to get the hang of it. i use uberdata and borrow a friends wideband when it needs to be retuned (im a poor bastard ;)). chipped my own ecu and read through way too much ---- on the forums to get the job done. done some minor tuning for some friends now as well. satiisfying when you get it done.


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