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turboDA6 09-02-2004 01:04 PM

RX-7 injectors = 460cc... possible to use on a honda and how?
 
i got 4 injectors from 2 non turbo rx7's and was wondering how i could get them to work on my 92 saturated integra... is it possible and how?

ComputerJLT 09-02-2004 02:32 PM

Re:RX-7 injectors = 460cc... possible to use on a honda and how?
 
well i dunno; look to find out if they're peak and hold or saturated type injectors and if they'll fit on the inatake and the fuel rail.

if they do i guess you have some injectors; if not hock them on ebay and buy some dsm 450s from dsm-trader for $30

T-RO 09-04-2004 11:37 AM

Re:RX-7 injectors = 460cc... possible to use on a honda and how?
 
Yep
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=730383

DSM Beast 09-08-2004 05:53 PM

Re:RX-7 injectors = 460cc... possible to use on a honda and how?
 
I posted this a long time ago on dsmtalk.com. I thought I would just cut and paste what I found before. We will be putting some 550s on my friends B20/vtec. He will have to turn his fuel pressure down to around 20psi, then we will tune it with a fields vtec controller +-30% I am trying to talk him into going emanage. I cant get enough of it :)


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Injector Information

Mazda RX-7(Gen 1 and 2) Fuel injector identification guide

(Note that some injectors carry the same part number as others but plug styles and resistances can vary. Low impedance refers to 2-3 ohms, high impedance refers to 12-13 ohms.)

Year type impedance plug style plug notch position flow rating color part number

84-85 13B NT low square center 680cc orange 195500-0900
86-87 13B NT low square center 460cc red 195500-1350
86-87 13B T low square center 550cc tan 195500-1370
88 13B NT high square offset 460cc purple 195500-1350
88 13b T high square offset 550cc purple 195500-1370
89-91 13B NT high oval center 460cc red 195500-2010
89-91 13B T high oval center 550cc purple 195500-2020

As a side note, replacement fuel injector clips(for wiring harness) can be obtained from auto parts stores to replace broken stock clips. I got the parts from autozone:

GP Sorenson part 800-9416 Fuel Injector Connector

More about injector impedances on 2nd generations:

1986 and 1987 model cars used low impedance(2-3 ohm) injectors. Low impedance injectors have a center notch on the plug. The wiring harness used with LI injectors integrates an injector resistor pack, wired inline between the ECU and injectors(under stock air box) to bump overall load seen at the ECU to 12-13 ohms.

1988 and later models used high impedance injectors. 1988 HI injectors have an offset notch on the plug, and all post 1988 injectors are HI with an oval plug(until 3rd generation side feed injectors which are totally different). The wiring harness on these models deleted the injector resistor pacl, carrying the 12-13 ohm load from the injectors directly to the computer.

When performing engine/wiring/injector swaps, the type of setup must be noted and kept together. This is easy as LI injectors will only plug into a harness meant for them(due to the position of the plug notch) and vice versa for HI injectors and harnesses. 88 and post 89 HI injectors and harnesses are not interchangeable.

A car that previously ran one type of setup can be changed to the other…keep the injectors and wiring harness together. The ECU will not know the difference.

It is also possible, but not necessarily recommended, to use HI injectors on a LI harness and vice versa:

***TO do so you must modify the injectors to fit the opposing wiring harness by taking off the notch on the plug.

***IF using LI injectors on a HI harness, you must splice into the harness, at each injector lead (for a total of 4) 10 ohm/10watt resistors available at radio shack for a couple of bucks. Doesn't matter which wire of the 2 per injector you splice to, polarity isn't an issue here. This bumps the LI resistance up to acceptable load for the ECU to see.

***IF using HI injectors on a LI harness, you must unplug the resistor pack. Next, locate the supply wire in the center of 5 terminals. Bridge jumper wires from this terminal to each of the 4 outlying terminals, which basically completes the circuit without resistors, carrying the HI injectors' 12-13 ohm load directly to the ECU just as a HI harness would.
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I was using a set of High impedence Injectors I am now running PTE 880s...MAKE SURE YOU CLEAN/HAVE THE RX7 INJECTORS CLEANED AND BALANCED!!-----

I learned this the hard way.



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