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bumblezc 08-06-2005 08:25 PM

PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
I'm looking into figuring out a way to Datalog my DIY WB values but it does not corrispond with a PLX device mainly because it is non-linear.

Anybody have the reference voltage for the PLX device in the TE/ECUcontrol Plugging. That way when I log AFR I can Export to a ------ sheet and convert the AFRs to Voltages in Excel then Cross reference with the values I need.

Chris Harris 08-06-2005 08:30 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
The output voltages shouldnt have anything really to do with the device and more with the type of sensor used...no?

TurboEF9 08-07-2005 12:33 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
If they're non-linear, then it's not going to work... because those voltages won't corrospond with the voltages of the PLX.

Racintweek 08-07-2005 08:07 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
does the output of the LC-1 match the PLX??
and iif it doesnt can you scale the voltages in ECUcontrol??

bumblezc 08-07-2005 10:47 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 

Originally Posted by TurboEF9
If they're non-linear, then it's not going to work... because those voltages won't corrospond with the voltages of the PLX.

I know this, but if my sensor at 1.95volts is 11.5:1 AFR and on the PLX it is 10.1:1, ECUControl will log the 10:1, I then can take it into Excel, Convert the PLX 10:1 to voltage, and Vawla, I have my WB Voltage output that I can Corrispond to my AFR readings.

I otherwords, I just want to log the voltage of the sensor, seeing as I can't do it straight up, I will log it as a PLX Device.
i don't believe ECUControl will car if the Sensor is linear or not rights, It's still going to log what it reads, and then I can interpret the values.v Right?

FYI: The DI-WB use the Honda VX Sensor.

bumblezc 08-07-2005 11:02 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Okay I just found the equation from the PLX Site.

If I log a 15:1 AFR on a PLX Device thats

AFR=2*Voltage+10
Thus
Voltage is going to be
V=(15-10)/2
V=2.5volt
Take that to my sensor:
where 2.5 volts is 14.70AFR.

I have an equation for the Voltage to AFR for my sensor, so I won't alway have to reference to a chart, just copy and paste into cells.

Anyone see a problem with my theory.

bumblezc 08-07-2005 11:11 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Also If I have an equation to determine the Voltage to AFR could that not be written into ECUControl so that a non-linear device can be used? I'm not a Programming or ECU Genius so I don't now how the ECU would interpret this input?

TurboEF9 08-07-2005 03:39 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
If you have a formula that converts it, yes... otherwise, if you're using a "Table" then that is a pain in the ass because it has to be statically compared.

The ECU also doesn't "do" anything with the information. ECUs do not interpret the WBO2 data...

bumblezc 08-07-2005 03:41 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
That's what I thought.
I used Excel TrendLine to dtermine it, In comparisson it is on like xx.xx2 off, so not biggy. The widebands accuracy isn't even that exact.

What are the instructions for inputing WBo2 for Datalogging using TE/ECUControl?

TurboEF9 08-07-2005 03:47 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
I dont' know.. you'll have to get with Nick about that. So far, I don't think he's got anything setup for userdefinable WB tables.

bumblezc 08-07-2005 04:06 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
But as far as sending the voltages to the ECU

Do I just input the 0-5volt signal through C16(Stock o2), disable the o2 sensor in my TE code so it stays in open loop and set the Pluggin for ECUControl to the PLX Device instead of the Stock Device?

TurboEF9 08-07-2005 07:40 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Yes, connect it to stock O2 location,and disable O2 in the ROM.

As far as ECUControl.. I do'nt know, I don't use it.

bumblezc 08-08-2005 10:43 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Thanks man, I'll have to give this a try.

Also then

What does the Almighty TurboEF9 Use?

TurboEF9 08-08-2005 12:26 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
I wrote my own datalogger, of course. :)

bumblezc 08-08-2005 02:19 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Damn to be a Genius!

Chris Harris 08-08-2005 03:58 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
You know J. Parker gets all the ladies with his madd coding skeeelz :-X

bumblezc 08-12-2005 08:59 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Yes this works. I log as a PLX device, then save to Excel.

I wrote a Macro to Convert, It corrispond within 3 decimal Places to my Digital Voltmeter.

I haven't used it to tune yet, but at idle and rev in the shop it works.

TurboEF9 08-13-2005 12:21 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Good work! ...is this somethign you can post and share for others?

bumblezc 08-15-2005 10:52 AM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Will do later.

bumblezc 08-15-2005 09:00 PM

Re: PLX Device Voltages vs. AFR
 
Would anyone Really be interested in the Macro and The instructions for this. It is a little in depth, as I don not know how many people know how to write Macros and use trendlines.

Seeing as every WB is different and I only know of the DIY and AEM one being non-linear.


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