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blundar 04-18-2004 04:54 PM

NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
http://www.pgmfi.org/phorum/read.php?f=12&i=3331&t=3331

The bottom line is that boost should behave like it should in NG5, instead of all ass backwards as was the case in NG4.

I'll be around for training tonight to answer more questions, and hope to have the 3bar / 2bar bins that people have been requesting ready by that point.

leed 04-18-2004 07:13 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
Nice work Dave. Gonna be a few happy HMT'ers

hotrex 04-18-2004 11:43 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
yes im definately waiting on that 3bar bin so i can start tuning my retardo motor

turbohf 04-18-2004 11:47 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
what was fixed with this one? cuz my car still doesnt have a stable idle, and still gets a code everytime i let the engine slow me down...

i did notice a diff with the maps, seems smoother, but didnt get to test much cuz it was going a little too lean before boost :o so i need to do a little work on my maps...

MikeJ-2009 04-19-2004 12:22 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
I'm not understanding what the ng5 is. Is it like a new updated version of TE and we just save the maps under the new ng5 or what?

turbohf 04-19-2004 12:27 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
its the code behind the maps...TE is the same....your maps are the same...you just export your maps onto the new NG5...

blundar 04-19-2004 04:03 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
unfortunately, due to the coding error present in earlier versions of the NG code, the boost maps will work radically different now - like they should.

TurboHF, you might want to check out the .exp I posted too - its what's in my car. I'm currently getting ~26mpg, passed emissions and idle rock solid around 800rpm w/ turbo LS in CRX. Boost tuning is crappy still. Your tune posted on PGMFI was WAY rich for me. like 10s-11s.

blundar 04-19-2004 04:04 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 
oh yeah, the beta 2bar + 3bar bins are posted.

Bongnak 04-20-2004 02:44 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
ohhh working very goood... good job! freakin geniusessess

tested one yesterday but made a few mistakes on the maps and it buckled...accidently left one of the values at 0 ooops. just finished another file and did a quick launch and ran really well, just need to test it on the highway and at the street races hehe

once again my hat goes off to you guys thanks

turbohf 04-20-2004 04:55 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!!
 

Originally Posted by blundar
TurboHF, you might want to check out the .exp I posted too - its what's in my car. I'm currently getting ~26mpg, passed emissions and idle rock solid around 800rpm w/ turbo LS in CRX. Boost tuning is crappy still. Your tune posted on PGMFI was WAY rich for me. like 10s-11s.

your tune is rich for me also? and not sure if it the tune or the code (i assume the code) but on decel its rich? like 13's for a couple of seconds before it goes lean?? shouldnt it just go lean?

ComputerJLT 04-21-2004 11:42 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
----! this is awesome!

but it sucks at the same time :( my timing betl took a ---- on me so i'm waiting for parts to fix that. and my RTP board.
maybe they'll come in at the same time and then i'll have a ball tuning with the wideband :D

turbohf 04-24-2004 03:51 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
what am i suppost to be opening "columncalc" with?

just ordered my 3 bar MAP ;D an 'fixed' my boost problem...now it hits 15psi :o so need to get the 3bar working on my car 8)

Spenser 04-24-2004 03:53 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 

Originally Posted by turbohf
what am i suppost to be opening "columncalc" with?

just ordered my 3 bar MAP ;D an 'fixed' my boost problem...now it hits 15psi :o so need to get the 3bar working on my car 8)

open it in newer version of excel, with the "analysis toopak" add-in

turbohf 04-24-2004 03:58 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
ahhh....this computer has nothing like that on it, but my sisters computer does... ;)

MikeJ-2009 04-24-2004 04:10 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
I saw the new 2/3 bar maps, but one of them is pm6.asm and one of them is pm6.bin Which one should I be concerned with?
Geez, this week is tuning class, the weekend after may have to be this whole re-scaling the fuel columns for the 2/3 bar. This gets a little more confusing each time. :-[

surfer 04-26-2004 06:33 AM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
Ok, I dont understand the difference between the NG5 bin and the original stable one, all i need to know at the moment is will my stable rom tuned maps be interpreted the same on NG5 or will they run rich/lean?

Chris Harris 04-26-2004 12:50 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
Surfer...the NA Maps will be the same...the boost maps are COMPLETELY different.

Stealth, the hardest part about all of this is keeping up with the ever-changing info out there. The rest is cake once you understand the basics.

surfer 04-26-2004 03:41 PM

Re:NG5 for TE2 - significant bugfixes!!! (Also beta 2bar/3bar support)
 
I thought it was only the NG bins that were all ass backwards, and the stable rom was pretty much the same as NG5 with regards to the fuel/ignition map interpritation the main difference being the idle and partial throttle


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