Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
06-15-2004, 05:22 PM
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Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
Ok, i plan on turboing a d15z1/y8 mini me, that is in my CRX.
I will be using a t25 and plan on boosting at its internal wastegate of 8lbs. Im worried about fuel, and leaning out, i dont want to get a sfac. or a expensive zdyne unit.
Im running a obd0 pm6 ecu, and a lot of people have told me to switch to OBD1!!! My questions is which would be better? Ive been looking at turboedit, and can i put the p28 maps in my pm6?? I also need a way to activate vtec, im using a switch now, which isnt good, is there any way my pm6 can activate vtec, and add fuel when vtec kicks in just like the p28.
And do i use a base map for the turbo, and just use the larger injectors and things
or do i use a modified map?
Ive been looking at some of the turboprojects and my similar swap, they are just using like a fuel pressure regulator, and injectors is that good enough?
Im really confused, and just dont know what to do, fuel management, is the only thing holding me back, i just dont knwo what would be best!! Thanks and i hope i start to understand this ----
I will be using a t25 and plan on boosting at its internal wastegate of 8lbs. Im worried about fuel, and leaning out, i dont want to get a sfac. or a expensive zdyne unit.
Im running a obd0 pm6 ecu, and a lot of people have told me to switch to OBD1!!! My questions is which would be better? Ive been looking at turboedit, and can i put the p28 maps in my pm6?? I also need a way to activate vtec, im using a switch now, which isnt good, is there any way my pm6 can activate vtec, and add fuel when vtec kicks in just like the p28.
And do i use a base map for the turbo, and just use the larger injectors and things
or do i use a modified map?Ive been looking at some of the turboprojects and my similar swap, they are just using like a fuel pressure regulator, and injectors is that good enough?
Im really confused, and just dont know what to do, fuel management, is the only thing holding me back, i just dont knwo what would be best!! Thanks and i hope i start to understand this ----
06-15-2004, 06:39 PM
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Re:Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
Originally Posted by rob42386
My questions is which would be better? (You're OBD0.. why switch if equal and sometimes BETTER tools are available for your current setup?) Ive been looking at turboedit, and can i put the p28 maps in my pm6??
Sure. Just takes a bit of math. But, there are already mini-me maps out there. One notibly that I ran was Stephen Dick's Mini-Me map. Ran hard and strong for months (extrapolated for boost, of course).
I also need a way to activate vtec, im using a switch now, which isnt good, (says who?) is there any way my pm6 can activate vtec, and add fuel when vtec kicks in just like the p28.
Yes. This code is being worked out. Might be a few more months until it's bug free, but it is a priority right now and is being tested by a few strong beta testers (THANKS DUSTIN
). For now.. just use the switch. There is nothing wrong with it.
And do i use a base map for the turbo, and just use the larger injectors and things or do i use a modified map?
You would use the TurboEDIT boost tools to create your boost ignition, and fuel base maps, and fine tune from there. Very easy to use.. and have been dyno tested safe, and very efficient.
Ive been looking at some of the turboprojects and my similar swap, they are just using like a fuel pressure regulator, and injectors is that good enough?
No. That's a old fashioned way of fueling positive manifold pressure. Even considered arcaic on this board. Don't use it, it's not efficient.
Im really confused, and just dont know what to do, fuel management, is the only thing holding me back, i just dont knwo what would be best!! Thanks and i hope i start to understand this ----
Your best bet would be to read the Engine Management FAQ at the beginning of this forum. It will clear up A LOT of the questions you have, and possibly a lot of the conerns. This will also help you decide on which management system is most flexible, and cost effective for your target setup.
Sure. Just takes a bit of math. But, there are already mini-me maps out there. One notibly that I ran was Stephen Dick's Mini-Me map. Ran hard and strong for months (extrapolated for boost, of course).
I also need a way to activate vtec, im using a switch now, which isnt good, (says who?) is there any way my pm6 can activate vtec, and add fuel when vtec kicks in just like the p28.
Yes. This code is being worked out. Might be a few more months until it's bug free, but it is a priority right now and is being tested by a few strong beta testers (THANKS DUSTIN
). For now.. just use the switch. There is nothing wrong with it.And do i use a base map for the turbo, and just use the larger injectors and things
or do i use a modified map?You would use the TurboEDIT boost tools to create your boost ignition, and fuel base maps, and fine tune from there. Very easy to use.. and have been dyno tested safe, and very efficient.
Ive been looking at some of the turboprojects and my similar swap, they are just using like a fuel pressure regulator, and injectors is that good enough?
No. That's a old fashioned way of fueling positive manifold pressure. Even considered arcaic on this board. Don't use it, it's not efficient.
Im really confused, and just dont know what to do, fuel management, is the only thing holding me back, i just dont knwo what would be best!! Thanks and i hope i start to understand this ----
Your best bet would be to read the Engine Management FAQ at the beginning of this forum. It will clear up A LOT of the questions you have, and possibly a lot of the conerns. This will also help you decide on which management system is most flexible, and cost effective for your target setup.
06-15-2004, 08:28 PM
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Re:Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
Wow thanks man. where can i get this "Stephen dicks" mini me map?? because i dont understand the tables yet, and i know that i cant make mine yet.
As for the vtec! where do i get the wire to come out of the ecu?? is there a link where i can look at this? is there a board that the vtec wire comes from??
I think that YOUR turboedit would be the best for me if i decide to stick with the OBDO, it looks like i will. the only reason i wanted to switch was because of the vtec coming from the ecu, but if you can do it with a obd0 ecu then ill try that!! and save some money
Where can i get some turboedit roms and maps at? didnt see many on your site.
So basically if i wanted to chip a ecu for NA, i could select single maps on the properties? and then if i wanted to burn a chip for FI, then dual maps?? because that introduces boost? i think im starting to get this.
thanks
As for the vtec! where do i get the wire to come out of the ecu?? is there a link where i can look at this? is there a board that the vtec wire comes from??
I think that YOUR turboedit would be the best for me if i decide to stick with the OBDO, it looks like i will. the only reason i wanted to switch was because of the vtec coming from the ecu, but if you can do it with a obd0 ecu then ill try that!! and save some money
Where can i get some turboedit roms and maps at? didnt see many on your site.
So basically if i wanted to chip a ecu for NA, i could select single maps on the properties? and then if i wanted to burn a chip for FI, then dual maps?? because that introduces boost? i think im starting to get this.
thanks
06-16-2004, 01:08 PM
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Re:Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
1) PGMFI.org -> \Softwre\TurboEDIT
2) Auto parts store?
3) PGMFI.org -> \Develpmen\OBD0
4) No board, it's a replicated output from the MCU.
5) PGMFI.org -> \Software\TurboEDIT
6) True.
7) True.
2) Auto parts store?
3) PGMFI.org -> \Develpmen\OBD0
4) No board, it's a replicated output from the MCU.
5) PGMFI.org -> \Software\TurboEDIT
6) True.
7) True.
06-16-2004, 07:04 PM
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Re:Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
Ok, i was looking on PMGFI.org, and i found under the ecu section, a Vtec for the PM6 ecu. But i went to it and its all confusing things to add or something?
I think the parts were coming from other ecu's?? i have a 90 HF and a 91 DX ECU's, can i get parts from them??
You said that the wire comes from a microcontroller, so what do i have to do to set it up? Is there a detailed link to where this has been done?
OMG if i was you and had so many people asking simple questions i dont know what i would do, i probably couldnt take it. Im new to this, and it seems very interesting, and im trying to learn as much as possible!! Thanks for everything, and its amazing how many people you help out!!
I think the parts were coming from other ecu's?? i have a 90 HF and a 91 DX ECU's, can i get parts from them??
You said that the wire comes from a microcontroller, so what do i have to do to set it up? Is there a detailed link to where this has been done?
OMG if i was you and had so many people asking simple questions i dont know what i would do, i probably couldnt take it. Im new to this, and it seems very interesting, and im trying to learn as much as possible!! Thanks for everything, and its amazing how many people you help out!!
06-16-2004, 07:14 PM
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Re:Newbie!! Turboedit Need some ?'s Answered
i don't think you'll get much more detailed than this..
http://pgmfi.org/phorum/read.php?f=12&i=2669&t=2669
Thanks, a lot. There are a lot of us that put a lot of work into this hobby, and it gets stressful sometimes, and burnout sets in, but, we try to keep going. PGMFI.org and I thank you for your understanding and appreicatation.
http://pgmfi.org/phorum/read.php?f=12&i=2669&t=2669
Thanks, a lot. There are a lot of us that put a lot of work into this hobby, and it gets stressful sometimes, and burnout sets in, but, we try to keep going. PGMFI.org and I thank you for your understanding and appreicatation.
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