neptune
 

First off....im 100% nobie to tuning. im tryin to learn...

I dont understand what makes neptune worth the $$ and what makes it better than crome pro

anyone care to explain.

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never used it, but i'm interested to learn the same.

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I like it, has a lot of features. go check out their website.

http://www.hrtuning.com/

they have full feature lists and stuff.

It's full of random little things that are really nice.

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it has things like the single cyl. tuning, gear tuning, but worth another $350?

im not convinced...and I would like to be convinced, honestly...there was a day when uberdata and hondata S200 was the best thing out there, while hondata had you by your balls if you bought into there program....then came crome/crome pro....and now neptune is comming in.

I'd rather spend the $$ on neptune and be a few steps ahead....thats what im getting it. However, I dont see many things different about it. Is it something thats not on the website? Is it something that is unsaid? more stable?

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Why not practice with crome free?? Its free.

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I THINK, if you really know anything abuot tuning , you can tune any car with any setup and make very good power/torque ..it doesnt matter what EMS you using.. i know some EMS have more options and so than anothers but.. if you really know abuot tuning.. you can to do anything with any EMS..knowing limits of software and engine of course...

ive seen very good power on good turbo/NA engines tuned with neptune, but too with crome PRO and FREE and of course with UD..

so just learn how to tune with software what you prefer and practice!

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im looking for a program, and from what I gather, crome, the free base program isnt much of anything...no datalogging or anything of that nature...

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Anything. It has everything you need to modify the bins.


Use freelog for the datalogging. It is faster than CROME, but you don't get to use direct calculation on the maps from the datalogs, but thats not an issue.

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Bump for more info.

-So then there really is no need to buy neptune. Even if I do get crome, I will go crome pro. but the bottom line is, why is neptune bein blown up into some huge program. I dont see anything spectaciular about it.

Chris/JD....anyone

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Ya xeno is the man to talk to...

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first off go to PGMFI and if you wanna use crome..learn how to do if you dont know still and like MAX said, with freelog you can to do anything... otherwise, buy CROME PRO .. just 155$ or so..

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Well, James a put a lot of time...I mean probably thousands of hours into his editor. Lots of big name tuners have used it, like it and have put out some major numbers with Neptune.

The beauty of Neptune RTP is that everything works. There are no random scripts flying around the internet and you dont know if they work, half work or dont work at all.

The other beauty of Neptune RTP is ONE single USB cable for everything, datalogging, uploading...changes etc. And if you want to get real trick with it, you can hook up the bluetooth and do everything with no wires.

You have full control over ALL inputs and outputs. You can trigger, anything electrical based on a variety of different parameters. Dual map capability, nitrous, ITBs....everything.

There are personal things I would like to still see added but at this point it is the most comprehensive system on the market and for the $450 price...there is really nothing that can compete if you are planning on tuning your own car.

If you think of the price tag for Ostrich ($175), Datalogging ($30) and Crome PRO ($149), you are already at $354 plus shipping. For less than $100 more you have an EMS that really has no major bugs that anyone has found yet or can attest to and has the service and support Hondata wished they could give.

All the features are on the HRtuning website someone posted earlier...let me know here if you have any other questions.

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See, now thats the kinda anwser i was looking for.

Also, I cant get into pgmfi.org. my screen name doesnt exist anymore, and when I try to re-register, I get the spybot attempt screen....

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Ive used Uber way back in the day (v1.2?), Crome for the last 2 years, and finally made the switch to Neptune. I made the switch mainly b/c i felt like i was at a point where my personal time was worth more than having to mess around with getting Crome to work like I wanted it to. Not to take anything away from Crome or say that it won't get the job done, but i found that i was spending more time setting up and trouble shooting that actual tuning with Crome.

I'm busy and have little time to mess with my car, but when i do get a chance to tune, i want to spend it tuning, not trying to trouble shoot and fighting with the system.

so far, i got to datalogg a little bit with Neptune. It was nice for a change to actually walk out to the car, plug it in, and start datalogging without much hassel.

The only hang up ive experienced with Neptune was that i happen to be one of the unlucky few who recieved a RTP board with a faulty chip, which threw a CEL when trying to update. I just got my new board back not too long ago... and since then its dumped a bunch of snow so ive only got to start it up and let it idle.

I read a little bit about the reported problem with Crome's ignition coding issue... something or other... i don't know much about it, but i briefly read about it in the Neptune forum. Maybe someone else can elaborate.

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interesting. I was talking with a local guy here who has been running hondata since they have been out...he says hes gonna ditch the hondata and get a neptune board.

He's sayin that its just super stable. I'm leaning twords it but just dont know yet.

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Um, bluetooth much. For an added 100 you can get wireless connectivity.

Having an extra 2 controllable outputs doesn't hurt either.

Definitely want to get a Neptune RTP board, but no money. :3

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unfortunately ive been to busy with school to even start messing with my car, i'm the type of guy that has to finish it if i start it, which could really ---- up a whole study day for me if a 1hr tuning gap turns into a 5 hour session. So ive been patiently waiting to play with my Neptune RTP.

But my cousin, who also just purchased Neptune came over today for some help on the install and we played around with the RTP, all i got to say is WOW. After the initial setup, we had the car very drivable in just 20 minutes! and the best part is that everything worked just like it was supposed to. No cursing, no throwing tools across the garage, no drama...

Neptune RTP, makes tuning just like what its supposed to be, enjoyable. It was so painless that even though i have finals to study for i might spend like an hour tomorow and play around with my car.

ahhh... i can't wait. :6 :6

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im about to order somethings from Chris, play around with crome and then go from there. Just like someone posted, I can learn the basics from crome (the freeware) and then go from there with it.

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That is usually the way I would recommend, however...Crome's interface is nicer but the functionality isnt as crisp as Neptune. You might just want to learn Neptune 1st as I find that the first program you learn becomes your favorite and the bugs here or there in Crome that you will run across (and might not know it) will frustrate you where Neptune wont.

I urge you to decide if you want ease and a solid platform or a great user interface with some inherent bugs that will really make you think and learn (this is a good thing, just a little more time consuming).

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well damit. now I guess I will put some more thought to it. :S

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thats me btw...and i must say, i used crome free for a bit, and was so frustrated cuz the ECT settings would never work on my car. so i switched to neptune, and damn its nice! haha, i mean for example today i just learned how to use the A/F logging feature. now that is sweet! no more looking at rpms, then boost gauge, then wideband. just simply drive, and let neptune log all your parameters. when i say all, i really mean ALL your parameters, from: ect, to iat, vss, voltage, eld, o2, blah blah, the list goes on. i would highly reccomend it to anyone.

at first i thought the price was kinda steep, but now that i think about it, its freaken cheap, feature-wise.

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Speaking of functionality, Hondata's S Manager software is horrible. After using CROME for so long, the hondata software is just complete junk. Just simple datalogging and editing tables is really bad.

Another problem I keep having when tuning the S300's is that I can't use my inverter to power my laptop and datalog at the same time. Tried it so many times. with datalogging active, flip the power switch on the inverter and datalogging freezes. Tried it in my own car too. Same issue.


I have messed around with Neptune a few times. Way different than CROME. After a while it's is nice though. Pretty good, but I have to say that CROME has by far the most user friendly interface.

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Walter got it in a nutshell:

Just geek out on whatever you decide to run, Frank, and ask about a bazillion questions. Tune stock vehicles. Learn about reading plugs. Be annoying and fill my, xeno's, leed's, etc, etc, etc etc etc[awnklsalk;nsaklsd's inboxes with 1,001 little questions and compare the responses you get from one of us to all the others and think about why you think each and every one of us is right/wrong.

You'll do fine. :)

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Help Help Walters stuck in a nutshell !! spaniards are very small.