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fastcrxsi90 01-10-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Logworks 3.0
 

Originally Posted by fuse
The lm2 has 4, 5 volt analog inputs and rpm input. So it record that an afr on the sd card. I know about plugins, ecu control, freelog and what not. I just wanted some thing to record with out all the lap top ---- hooked up. Logworks was the answer in my situation due to I have a lm2 now.

sorry...i was tihinking lm1 (instead of llm2)

since you dont like math, i wont bother posting my actual formulas...

to simplify everything... (vacuum is negative, boost is positive)
for a stock obd0/1/2 "honda" map sensor:
inHg ~ (9.96 * volt) - 28.42
or
psig ~ (4.89 * volt) - 13.96

as far as logworks, im not sure that if you can break it into inHg for vacuum and psi for boost or not. with a plugin you can, but a direct voltage input im not sure.

miss-piggy 01-10-2009 06:29 PM

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fuse 01-10-2009 09:35 PM

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LOL LOL ---- thanks. That is exactly what I was looking for. I cant just stick with a unit sorry. Logworks is so strange I will not go into -psi or -inhgvac. And you can only pick one unit at a time. So you have to double open the file and run one psi and one inhg.

Tom-Guy 01-11-2009 03:16 AM

Re: Logworks 3.0
 

Originally Posted by bigwig
Joseph, stop. Look at a data sheet before telling me I'm wrong. Then you should look at my SIMPLE ACCURATE calculations and verify that I am indeed correct because on this occassion you are wrong, I can prove it, and it's not worth getting in an argument over. Not to mention I only refer to 8bit calcs when refering to the ECU and my raw formula is totally unrelated to bits, bytes, or anything of the sort. Again, I'm about 99.97% sure I'm right on this one. Take it for what it is worth.

Quit with the logical red herrings. There is no data sheet for the stock sensor, and you have never measured output versus pressure on multiple units. I have.



Originally Posted by bigwig
PS: Blake never saw the resolution as an issue with map sensor values so there was never a reason to move from 8bit to 16bit map sensor data allocation thus why he never did it. He was the ultimate proponent of interpolation and not giving a ---- whether the map sensor was 100% accurate. Look back on HT on his ramblings about Neptune and how stupid he thought 24 column fuel maps were.

I use 24 column fuel maps on anything 3 bar or bigger. You see, I tune a lot of cars and Blake hasn't. All that extra resolution paints a very clear picture of engine VE as there are usually pronounced dips and quirks in engine operation that 6-7 psi scalar spacings lose. That extra resolution saves time when tuning, too.

Would you like me to type that up into data sheet format for you? For the record go shove a datasheet up your ass, I've read more datasheets in the last six months than you will in your entire life. Are you going to tell me to brush up on Ohm's and Kirchoff's next? Don't make me fire up mspaint and deface a picture of you.


I don't know why it's so fun to be mean to you, but it is.

miss-piggy 01-11-2009 05:38 AM

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Blah blah blah. You said that Motorolla sensors read to 0v, they don't. You are an internet loud mouth and are happy to post to the world any accomplishment you've had. If you benched a stock sensor, let alone more than one, you would have posted and bragged about it. Lastly, I never said I agreed with Blake's opinion. I simply corrected your memory of it.

Anything further about the Honda sensor is up to your own discretion. I personally think Joseph's numbers are off. How much? Not enough to matter really, but they are off. I based my information on the Honda Shop Manual and compared it to the other ECU ROM editors. I've had discussions with some of those authors where they came up with their numbers. Answered varied and many of those individuals got mucked up in pressure conversions causing minor errors. The code was solid. The pressure conversions, not so much. Take it for what it's worth.

Joseph, knock yourself out with MS Paint. I don't really care.

Tom-Guy 01-11-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bigwig
Blah blah blah. You said that Motorolla sensors read to 0v, they don't.

If you want to plot the slope of their line, they do. Who gives a good goddamn about how the output knees off at 0 volts and 5 volts? The slope of the line of their operating range passes through 0 volts :1



Originally Posted by bigwig
You are an internet loud mouth and are happy to post to the world any accomplishment you've had. If you benched a stock sensor, let alone more than one, you would have posted and bragged about it.

Check my Honda-Tech posts circa 02-03. It was one of my frequent anti-Hondata commentaries.



Originally Posted by bigwig
Anything further about the Honda sensor is up to your own discretion. I personally think Joseph's numbers are off.

Continue to think without any accomplishments to back you up - it's fun to laugh at you.

Chris Harris 01-11-2009 08:43 PM

Re: Logworks 3.0
 

Originally Posted by fuse
Is logworks just gay?

Logworks isnt gay, you just cant mix two scales like InHg and PSI and put them on the same access.

For a honda, get used to using MBAR maybe?


You're both laughable...

The EASIEST point to calculate is 0 vacuum (1000 mbar)...ie KOEO. Measure that with an Ohmeter and that is 0 psi (1000 mbar) :)

Second point, I use 10.5 psi (1750 mbar) = 5 volts and thats always been "close nuff" for me :)

miss-piggy 01-11-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Logworks 3.0
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
Logworks isnt gay, you just cant mix two scales like InHg and PSI and put them on the same access.

For a honda, get used to using MBAR maybe?


You're both laughable...

The EASIEST point to calculate is 0 vacuum (1000 mbar)...ie KOEO. Measure that with an Ohmeter and that is 0 psi (1000 mbar) :)

Second point, I use 10.5 psi (1750 mbar) = 5 volts and thats always been "close nuff" for me :)

1000mbar isn't KOEO, 1 atm = 1013.25 millibars.....

fuse 01-12-2009 12:18 AM

Re: Logworks 3.0
 
I am high altitude will this make ---- worse for me?? Usually I have noticed my map reading are a bit low. Most times when I tune n/a I never use the far right coulombs for a wide open pull. Never gets to them. Don’t get me wrong I do tune them (guess).

Chris Harris 01-12-2009 11:05 AM

Re: Logworks 3.0
 

Originally Posted by bigwig
1000mbar isn't KOEO, 1 atm = 1013.25 millibars.....

holy christ you are a tool...no one is building nuclear weapons here, we are tuning cars


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