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92hatchattack 11-04-2004 11:11 AM

HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
i have a d15b2 in my eg hatch and im putting together a junkyard turbo using a 14b and i plan to run 8psi..

now ive been folowing uberdats for like a week now, and is creating a basemap really as easy as it seems???

all i do is open the stock ls bin, and upload the p06 bin into it??

then just go through it and type int hings like my ignition retartd and such... its that easy???

is it really a reliable enough base map to go out and drive your???

and the two other questions i have is:
1: i read something about when using larger injectors to read something that was important, but the link to it didnt work.... do i have to do anything special to the maps??? at one point i thought i read that when putting in 440cc's to add 5% all the way around the map??? but i thought when u went into the misc and changed your injector size it would have figured everytghing out automaticaly for you ...... what do i need to do when using 440's???

2: what is the boost fuel eff??? i read in the faq's to set it high and then tune it down. how do you tune it down??? i dont understand this, im not a tuning buff and all i really understand right now is that i would install a basemap, and then use a wideband on the street to add/subtract fuel from the low fuel table....

can you guys help me out a bit and clear up my mind about how thing work so im not so afraid to use this program cause i dont want to go with a hack .. lol

ok .. thanks all!!! t his site ownz me

projekteg 11-04-2004 11:24 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
making a basemap is fairly easy, it's the chipping and tuning that people seem to have a hard time with. yes, you can run your car with a basemap. yes, you need larger injectors, the all you do is update your injector size in the basemap and it updates the maps automatically. boost eff. is how much fuel it adds under boost. 120 -115 is a good starting point for your engine. 60 for the main and tps fuel modifiers is a good point to start also, not the suggested 53.

nonvtec 11-04-2004 01:06 PM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
There is a FAQ at www.ecimulti.org/uberdata that will walk you through making a basemap. Post it on their forums to make sure its legit before running it on your car. You can also download basemaps, like CSAddict's and put some more timing retard in and it will run your car well. How did a D15b2 get into your EG??? Why not just put a B7 in at least. What intake manifold is on that? Yes, Uberdata is as easy as it looks.

92hatchattack 11-05-2004 12:37 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
i have read all the faq's .

lol, and my bad .. its a b7.... ive messed with the b7 and b2 so much i always get them mixed up .... it used to have a b16 in it, but some people think they can take things that dont belong to them >:(

my friend makes circuit boards so he will be doing the chipping for me ..

why do u say its hard to tune??

and with the eff thing, do i scale that down when tunning with a wideband instead of scaling down the fuel on the actual fuel graph??? this part comfuses me a good deal

i will be running 440 dsm's

all and all said, would you guys go ahead and say that a uberdata basemap for boost is still way better than a hack???

keep the info coming guys!!!! thanks!

projekteg 11-05-2004 06:27 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
set it at 120 or so, then data log and see your a/f readings, if they're too rich, take the eff. down a little and do it again, get your afr's as close to perfect this way (simple), then start fine tuning the maps by the actual rows and colums.

92hatchattack 11-05-2004 08:54 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
ok, i think i get it , its like a mass scale across the boost portion of the fuel scale, and i lower the number to the point where at any given rpm range if the A/F ratio becomes propper, while other areas still need to be leaned out, that is the point where i would stop lowering that number, and then turn to my maps rows and colums correct???

also whats up with the data logging??? it looks kinda weird having the rpm read out on the vertical line instead of the horizontal line......

is it hard to read it like this???

how is the horizontal line measured??? maybbe the horizontal like is time???? and u actualy have to check your rmp line against your A/F line to know where you are????

projekteg 11-05-2004 08:59 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
sounds like you have a fairly good understanding of it, just mess with it some and you'll see it's not that tough. you can only understand so much until you actually get some hands on time tuning a car. good luck.

88crxSi 11-05-2004 09:06 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
i didnt know this yesterday when i started messin with uber.

I loaded the program up... then loaded the p28.bin because thats the one i wanted to use... right... WRONG.

uber has to start with an Integra map.. p72 or pr4 (vtec/non vtec).

then you "import" the p28.bin (which carries only fuel/ign maps over).

just thought id mention that.

then go to fuel eff type 120 click apply
go to ign retard type 1.0 click apply.. done ;)

projekteg 11-05-2004 09:10 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
yeah, the ls and gsr are the actual 'boost' codes, you have to import the stock rom over the boost map. 1.0* retard :o holy ---- son. i usually .75 at the most for 9 - 12 psi, no retard from 0-3 psi

92hatchattack 11-05-2004 09:10 AM

Re:HELP! is uberdata really as easy as it seems????
 
haha .. yeah, i figured that out awhile back, but dont you think a 1.0 timing retart is a little much????

i thought that as long as you were under around 30 degrees of timing up top that your pretty much in the clear... was i wrong???


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