help please car runs way to rich and wont idle....
 

ok i just got my xeno ecu in and hooked everything up and the car runs like ---- it is running so rich you cant drive it it has already killed one set of plugs so i swapped in another set and its still doing the same.. i looked for vacumme leaks and have found a few but im am now pulling 20in of vaccume so i am kinda lost here please help if you can... :S :S

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tune it duh

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i cant even drive it it shouldnt be this bad i understand on a base map that it will run rich but damn this is bad

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Is the base map for the same injectors?

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I got a basemap like that from xeno once. Couldent even get it to idle. the burner or ostrich is your best friend.

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yeah the map is or should be for rx7 460cc injectors i could understand it running rich just to be safe till i get it tuned but i cant even drive the car and thats not good...please any help would be awsome

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depende how rich you could run until get tuned..

i was talking with a guy from portugal, he said, runing too rich is very good for turbos, because it cools engine..

me: i was trying to say him he was wrong, but after some minuts.. only word i said, cya!

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yeah that would make sense only if i could drive the car but i cant drive it just sputters...

just a little back ground the car has a b20z with a 0bd1 intake&tb but it ran fine before also since this is a obd2 motor the obd0 dizzy only has one bolt holding it but i have never had any probs with it and please dont rag me on this cause im not the one that did it, i got it like that...

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are u trying to say was xenocron? mmm MP him abuot your problem then. idk why you dont mp him still..

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sorry walter i know you know very little english but i have no clue wat you are trying to say...but the car is also building no boost and the gauge is reading vacumme but no boost and i can only rev the car to 4500rpm and thats it then its like its hitting a rev limiter i would serch on here but the search never works and ht has no clue some one help a brotha out...

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Basemaps are really hit or miss.


Unless Xeno has actually tuned a car with those injectors he is only guessing.

Now if you had DSMs I'm sure it would pretty spot on idling since he's probably tuned with those injectors before.

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well if i need to swap in a set then i will but ill ask him about it..i figured he has dealt with rx7 injectors before...

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Why not just get a chip burner? their only 85 bucks and if you have a turbo honda with a chipped ecu you need to have one anyway. If it's a crome basemap then just use crome free to tune the idle area until it will start right.

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stock fpr as well?

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yes stock fpr and its te and i would try to tune it but i had already planned on a obd1 swapp and neptune but i need to get the car to be drivable for work...

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oh and also there was suppost to be a 4k rpm launch control and when i give it gas to 4k its not kickin in unless im not doing somthing right,,,

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rich is ok to rich is bad it will wash the rings out, and you will never build boost while sitting still you have to drive it to build boost, launch control people correct me if im wrong but the clutch has to be push it to work and pm xenocron with ur question since he is the write of the basemap ---- you wouldn't take your whopper to mcdonald to have the sandwhich fixed ---- this ant rocket science

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ok cool and i did email chris but havent gotten a reply..the reason i said i wasnt building boost was because i had a svo mustang that would build boost setting but i guesse the 2 different worlds...oh and why would it only rev to 4500rpm just because its running to rich it should still rev...also i dont have my 02 hooked up yet could that make that big of a difference...

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:3 ::)

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wtf is that suppost to mean if you can help please do but the weak ass smilleys and ---- isnt helping me....if i wanted bull ---- i would have posted on ht... ::)

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ok searching owns you most of this ---- has been covered before why do you thing no one else has posted be lucky i did

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To build boost off of a limiter, you need to cut timing significantly and add fuel.

Hondata, Neptune, and Ectune have this feature. No one has made a script for CROME yet to cut ignition.

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be lucky for wat you havent helped me other than smart ass comments..

and if the shitty search worked i would use it... ??? :7

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google it add homemadeturbo.com at the end of the query

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I love making basemaps...

9/10 times i can come very close...

1) maybe the injectors are dirty, did you have them cleaned?
2) maybe you voltage problems, which significantly affect how injectors work
3) maybe your fuel pressure is off
4) maybe there are about 2 millions different other things that can affect it

this is why i always include 2 basemaps with each ECU, usually they are 10% off one way or the other with fuel just in case something is off with the car...

the only thing you can do after that is alter the fuel pressure up or down or reburn the chip...unfortunately too many people use basemap and tuned map simultaneously...you should also never try to boost or use the launch if you cant get the car to idle :l

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thanks

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ok i have put my adjustable fpr and turned it all the way down and with one chip it runs areally rough and the other is just a little better im going to send you the one thats not as bad and thanks for the other advice i would not have known that before hand....oh and i did clean the injectors before i installed them but not by a shop...

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well actually ill send both back and you can lower the pressure on both but just as a comparison the exghaust fumes will make you cry if it gets in your face so yeah its bad

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good luck!

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thanks walt hopfully this will get worked out untill then im going to go ahead and start buying the ---- for the obd1 swap..

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I just made my own obd1 tuning harness from junkyard parts. I'm sure if I can do that you could make your own conversion harness. That may be my project for this week . I'll get the an obd1 and an obd0 harness from the junkyard and find a writeup and make my own I don't need one but the kid up the street does.

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i just picked up a jumper harnesse , obd 1 harnesse and od1 intake manifold for 75$$$ ;D :y