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Greddy Emanage vs SAFC vs SMT6

Old 09-23-2005, 01:58 PM
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So, seeing as how I have a Toyo, I don't really have the option of chipping my ECU for my fuel/ignition control.

I have an SAFC and MSD BTM now, but I don't like how I don't have complete control over my timing, and I don't like how limiting the SAFC is.

The Greddy emanage (blue box) looks nice, and I could get everything I needed if I sold my safc/msd and what not. I like it because I can get the Injector/Ignition harness and have a table for each. The only problem is that I don't know what the max -/+ values I can use for it (I think they're -/+ 20%, which I don't think is enough for my 450's). Also, I don't know if I need the pressure harness/sensor, as I have a 2 bar map sensor in there right now. I also don't know if I would need a support tool for it, or what the benefit of the support tool is.

The SMT6 is pretty big in the Toyota community, and in case people don't know, here's the site for it -

http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp

I think that may be my best choice, but I'm not sure as how much I can correct the fuel tables (-/+ %).

If anybody has any imput that would be awesome, Thanks,

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Old 11-01-2005, 07:22 PM
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The Emanage can adjust fuel maps (+/-) 35%. You would need the support tools (software and cable) to get full use of all of the Emanage's features.
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:18 PM
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SMT6 and you can put aditional injectors with this one and a map sensor for maping the tables better.
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Old 11-14-2005, 09:31 AM
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I have used the SMT6 on quite a few different makes of cars(including toyota)and have had really good luck with them.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by slappynuts
I have used the SMT6 on quite a few different makes of cars(including toyota)and have had really good luck with them.
Maybe you can help me then.

I've got an SAFC and an MSD BTM, but the BTM really messes with my tach, doesn't work well.

I really like the SMT6, I'm worried it wont help me "enough"

Stock injectors on my car are 170cc, where I have DSM 450's in there now. I have an Aeromotive FPR (adjustable, 1:1 refference w/ boost), so I can scale down my fuel pressure as needed. I also have a 2 bar map sensor in place of my 1 bar map sensor, so the car runs perfectly with about 340 cc injectors in there. Acts stock. Would the SMT6 let me control my fuel enough through all the rpms? I want to be able to throw a lot of fuel in there at the high rpms (going to be running a .63/.60). Would this work for me?
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:01 PM
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We used the MR2 MAP sensor and injectors and it tuned out just like advertised(OBD1 2200cc).
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:26 PM
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That's exactly what I'm doing. What sized injectors did you use? 310's or 450's? Do you work at Boost Factory? They're really close to me (I live in SW MPLS). Thanks again,

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Old 11-16-2005, 02:07 PM
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Have you looked into Megasquirt yet? It'll be the more difficult route but cheaper and overall better in the long run
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Old 11-16-2005, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitey
Have you looked into Megasquirt yet? It'll be the more difficult route but cheaper and overall better in the long run
I've built quite a few, and the only thing I have been worried about is ignition. I'll probably end up going with Megasquirt II / EDIS, seems to make the most sense.

No piggyback can do exactly what I want, so it looks like megasquirt
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:51 AM
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I have installed this unit on many cars and the toyotas seem to accept them the best.

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