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iNetForce 09-10-2005 06:17 PM

Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
Today I took my crx to the dyno, here are the the specs and a link for details.
88 crx, d16z6 swap obd1, std manifold, 14b, 450cc, 1g eclipse bov, uberdata 1.66, 5" jhonny racer intercooler, 2.25" down pipe, 2" charge pipes, 2.25 crush bend exhaust with a rectrictive resonator.

The car is running too rich, look after vtec, I need help with this, what should I do on this base map. Maybe 5% less fuel after vtec? I need some input here.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover/crx.xls

Here as an image:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover/crxdyno.jpg

Here is the file I'm running, I got it from a guy on the uberdata forums.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover...ngskickass.bin

J-MAN 09-10-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
did you tune the map to your car or just run pat's tune and hope for the best?

my computer wouldn't open the dyno sheet but what were your numbers?

iNetForce 09-10-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
did you tune the map to your car or just run pat's tune and hope for the best?

my computer wouldn't open the dyno sheet but what were your numbers?

I ran pats tune and hoped for the best.
I got 157.4 whp at 6700rpms

FooK 09-10-2005 07:19 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
i also cannot view them.

standard calculation for 450cc injectors tells us that adding 8.6% fuel will change your air/fuel ratio 1 full point. so take it from there and get yourself in 11.5:1 land. ;)

iNetForce 09-11-2005 12:07 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
I renamed the file just in case, let me know if you guys can see it now.

FooK 09-11-2005 12:20 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by iNetForce
I renamed the file just in case, let me know if you guys can see it now.

the problem isnt the filename its the lack of having microsoft excel to do it.

most people post dyno sheets and such as jpg's

leed 09-11-2005 05:56 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
Hot dam, 167whp on Pats bin that has fuel for 220ish whp, good god that must be running rich on your ride. How much boost? Im assuming that wasnt 10psi?
Pats bin was pretty much only tuned for WOT and 10psi. I then adjusted the lower boost columns so they mirrored the TQ curve, 'looked' good, and provided for good A/F's as it swept through them on spool up. Always cracks me up how many people run his bin. It represents about 20min worth of "3am, oh man gotta whip up base map for the dyno tomarow", about 15mins on the street, and I think about 6-7 pulls on the dyno. Then consider that it has been C/P into each newer version of Uber, and who knows what the fuel is at these days. lol ---- rips though, as long as your engine is getting fed enough air for all the fuel thats in Pats map.





iNetForce 09-11-2005 09:59 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by iNetForce
I renamed the file just in case, let me know if you guys can see it now.

the problem isnt the filename its the lack of having microsoft excel to do it.

most people post dyno sheets and such as jpg's

here you go

http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover/crxdyno.jpg

J-MAN 09-11-2005 10:56 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
wow :o, those are some crappy numbers. where did they have the WB02? i would say get it tuned to your car then try again, your not gonna make as much power as him with a little hf manifold and 14b turbo but you will make alot more then 150-ish once you take out some fuelin boost.

iNetForce 09-11-2005 11:53 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
wow :o, those are some crappy numbers. where did they have the WB02? i would say get it tuned to your car then try again, your not gonna make as much power as him with a little hf manifold and 14b turbo but you will make alot more then 150-ish once you take out some fuelin boost.

What percetange of fuel should I take off?

J-MAN 09-11-2005 12:18 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by FooK

standard calculation for 450cc injectors tells us that adding 8.6% fuel will change your air/fuel ratio 1 full point. so take it from there and get yourself in 11.5:1 land. ;)

just follow this unitl your at around 11.5:1, but if your o2 reading was from a tail pipe sniffer it will be a little off anyways.

iNetForce 09-12-2005 11:08 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
I got back from the dyno today; I paid for one hour at the dyno and I did the tuning myself. This is my first time ever tuning a car. I got 174whp 138 tq. Still at 10 psi, I know I can do better. I advanced the timing a bit at the distributor and I lost almost 7whp, I put it back to where it was before.

I think that retarding the timing at the distributor will give me more power. What do you guys think?

RENR 09-12-2005 11:14 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
if your runing uber your timing at the dizzy should be stock 16 degrees.

sohc_mshue 09-12-2005 11:23 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by iNetForce
I got back from the dyno today; I paid for one hour at the dyno and I did the tuning myself. This is my first time ever tuning a car. I got 174whp 138 tq. Still at 10 psi, I know I can do better. I advanced the timing a bit at the distributor and I lost almost 7whp, I put it back to where it was before.

I think that retarding the timing at the distributor will give me more power. What do you guys think?

those power numbers are still pretty weak for 10psi on that setup. Don't advance the timing at the dizzy. It needs to be advanced in the maps instead. Thats what uberdata is for!

iNetForce 09-13-2005 11:03 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by sohc_mshue

Originally Posted by iNetForce
I got back from the dyno today; I paid for one hour at the dyno and I did the tuning myself. This is my first time ever tuning a car. I got 174whp 138 tq. Still at 10 psi, I know I can do better. I advanced the timing a bit at the distributor and I lost almost 7whp, I put it back to where it was before.

I think that retarding the timing at the distributor will give me more power. What do you guys think?

those power numbers are still pretty weak for 10psi on that setup. Don't advance the timing at the dizzy. It needs to be advanced in the maps instead. Thats what uberdata is for!

Considering I have a 2 1/4 down pipe + 2 1/4 exhaust with a resonator that stops all the flow from the turbo, I think the numers are fine. I would like to test on the dyno again to tune down low and retard the distributor a bit to see how the car reacts.

projekteg 09-13-2005 11:17 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
what the hell is all this talk about retarding the dizzy, are you running the afc hack or something :P was the csv file in the first post from your first dyno or the second one when you netted 175? post up your most recent data log from the tune you are running right now, and post up your current tune, i may be able to 'bless' it :P

turboDA6 09-13-2005 11:38 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by projekteg
what the hell is all this talk about retarding the dizzy, are you running the afc hack or something :P was the csv file in the first post from your first dyno or the second one when you netted 175? post up your most recent data log from the tune you are running right now, and post up your current tune, i may be able to 'bless' it :P

listen to the man. with UD ur timing goes back to stock... when in boost ud retards for u per psi... listen to kev dude. he blessed me with almost a flat a/f with no tuning involved. he knows his ----.

iNetForce 09-13-2005 04:29 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
Here are the current logs
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover/fide2.zip

I will post up the file im using in an hour or two.

darksol2005 09-13-2005 10:47 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
jesus, just get someone w/ a wideband and a laptop to tune you ---- instead of paying to back to the dyno 4 or 5 times

iNetForce 09-14-2005 10:31 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
Here is my bin:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover/fide2.bin

projekteg 09-15-2005 08:11 AM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 

Originally Posted by iNetForce
Here are the current logs
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/r/crxlover/fide2.zip

I will post up the file im using in an hour or two.

you don't have any data log (.csv) files from uberdata? what version of uberdata are you using?

sohc_mshue 09-15-2005 12:06 PM

Re: Got the car dynoed, here are the results. Need help!
 
He is using 1.6 it appears. Why do people still use that ???


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