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which FMU on D16a6 T3 0.36/0.48

Old 09-27-2005, 03:56 PM
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hi im planning to boost my D16a6 Civic EDM (netherlands)

T3 0.36/0.48 internal wastegate (NOT adjustable) is this @ 8 psi?
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Stock injectors 250cc
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FMU <--- ??

FMU 12:1 is ok, but is 10:1 also enough? i wanna boost safe, but not extremely rich. 1 litre 95 is 1.50 euro! ~$1.70 (1 gallon is 4.7)litre?)

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i suggest not to use the fmu.. it doesnt give you any chance to tune and if your turbo is set for 8psi it would be very risky..
also the fmu by itself wont be enough youll also need a fuel pump stock honda pumps cant stand the pressure with the fmu..
in stead get a safc they are about 230$ ebay.. a used fmu is about 70 and a wallbro pump is about 90 so that makes 160 put some more money and youl be safer, have more performance and better mpg...

if still you want to go with the fmu its upto the boost youll run.. if 8 psi then you need the 12:1 cause its gotta be rich for having a chance of the motor handling that boost with a fmu
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Old 09-27-2005, 04:37 PM
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The 10-1 will be fine. You are going to need a new fuel pump to use with the FMU to get the pressure up. The stock pump won't keep up. You can get some inline pumps for around $100. I used a MSD inline, and it worked fine.
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:29 PM
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im still want to use FMU cos its cheaper, but i dindt know i would B needing a fuelpump.

chipping is the best thing for me, but i dont know how to.. ive read all the stuff on pgmfi.org but its complicated, dont have a burner ect..
safc i need 310cc injectors? and some device that controls the injectors? opening time less like a few % ??

im pretty noob, its all in english and technical english is hard to understand..

about my turbo; its a T3, there is a marking 48 in the compressorhouse. internal wastegate (NOT adjustable) im not really sure if it opens @ 8psi, i hope less. i couldnt find the exact boost in some other topics. so how can i find out when de wg opens @ ... psi?

it came of from a VW TD 1.8it also had an logo of VW and Audi

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first thing, what country in europe are you from and do you know the engine code from where the turbo came from. if you can give me that info i can get you the wastegate setting. most vw turbos are set set at very low PSI at the diaphram and are controlled by the ecu which acts like an electronic boost controller. ie: 1.8t wastegate is 4.5psi but the ECU lets it build up to 12 psi before it lets the diaphram see boost.

if you are willing to pay shipping i have a socketed PM6 and a chip burner i could sell you.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Racintweek
first thing, what country in europe are you from and do you know the engine code from where the turbo came from. if you can give me that info i can get you the wastegate setting. most vw turbos are set set at very low PSI at the diaphram and are controlled by the ecu which acts like an electronic boost controller. ie: 1.8t wastegate is 4.5psi but the ECU lets it build up to 12 psi before it lets the diaphram see boost.

if you are willing to pay shipping i have a socketed PM6 and a chip burner i could sell you.
Im from the netherlands. the turbo was laying around for a while in the attic of a garage, i asked if i could have it, htey say yeah sure, and they told me it came of a VW Golf2 1.8 TD.. , i thought VW was using KKK turbo's..

i have never chiptuned, i cant do a dyno run(or can i run the street as wel)
the socket pm6 does this one needs to be chipped?
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the ecu is socketed so you can remove/replace the chip whenever you need, and of course the burner to burn the chip.
you would also need a WB and a laptop to tune. Xenocrons webiste has all the info yo need to get started and doesnt have all the technicall gibberish you see on PGMFI

i would look into a diff turbo, that thing isnt even a T3. it was way undersized for the TDi and will be even worse on your d16.

KKK is owned by Borg-Warner
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by taiajam
Originally Posted by Racintweek
first thing, what country in europe are you from and do you know the engine code from where the turbo came from. if you can give me that info i can get you the wastegate setting. most vw turbos are set set at very low PSI at the diaphram and are controlled by the ecu which acts like an electronic boost controller. ie: 1.8t wastegate is 4.5psi but the ECU lets it build up to 12 psi before it lets the diaphram see boost.

if you are willing to pay shipping i have a socketed PM6 and a chip burner i could sell you.
Im from the netherlands. the turbo was laying around for a while in the attic of a garage, i asked if i could have it, htey say yeah sure, and they told me it came of a VW Golf2 1.8 TD.. , i thought VW was using KKK turbo's..

i have never chiptuned, i cant do a dyno run(or can i run the street as wel)
the socket pm6 does this one needs to be chipped?
I'm from the netherlands too.

What's up.. Wat voor 'n blok heb je, en waar komt de turbo vandaan?
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Originally Posted by Racintweek
the ecu is socketed so you can remove/replace the chip whenever you need, and of course the burner to burn the chip.
you would also need a WB and a laptop to tune. Xenocrons webiste has all the info yo need to get started and doesnt have all the technicall gibberish you see on PGMFI

i would look into a diff turbo, that thing isnt even a T3. it was way undersized for the TDi and will be even worse on your d16.

KKK is owned by Borg-Warner
whats WB?
ill look up what is written on the turbo. its al blabla to me (numbers/letters/codes) the plate says T3 so..

@ ton..

ik heb een D16a6 de turbo komt van mn oude stagebedrijf, ze zeiden dat die van een golf2 TD 1.8 afkwam...
heb jij ook je auto geboost? mn mail is [email protected] want uit engels word ik neit echt wijzer.. ik kan alle hulp gebruiken.

If i use
D16a6 Stock internals
T3 @ 8psi? of less i dunno @ what the WG is set
IC
chekvalves
FMU 10:1
better fuelpump?

is this safe? or will i detonate? and mess up my engine?

thanx

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Old 09-28-2005, 04:49 PM
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whats WB?
ill look up what is written on the turbo. its al blabla to me (numbers/letters/codes) the plate says T3 so..
WB = Wide Band O2 sensor (lambda)

@ ton..

ik heb een D16a6 de turbo komt van mn oude stagebedrijf, ze zeiden dat die van een golf2 TD 1.8 afkwam...
heb jij ook je auto geboost? mn mail is [email protected] want uit engels word ik neit echt wijzer.. ik kan alle hulp gebruiken.
D16A6 = good for boost.

Golf gebruikt KKK, alle duitsers eigenlijk, kan je eens pics maken van je turbo, en hier even vragen wat voor n het is, ze weten 't meestal wel. Ik hd me auto geboost, maar me turbo is kapot gegaan, ben nu aan het sparen voor serieus spul.

If i use
D16a6 Stock internals
T3 @ 8psi? of less i dunno @ what the WG is set
IC
chekvalves
FMU 10:1
better fuelpump?
8psi is redelijk hoog voor 'n FMU, maar het kan best... soms... maar begin eens met 5 psi. Regel dit via 'n MBC (manual boost controller)

Don't try to use checkvalves.. buy a missinglink (google it.)

is this safe? or will i detonate? and mess up my engine?
Only sex with a condom is safe...
When you clock your ignition (couple degrees sooner) than you'll probably won't ---- it up, as long as you run it on Euro 98 (octane 9 unleaded.
thanx
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