I figured that maybe it's about time i start doing some research on this instead of going to have someone chip and tune my car for me. I've been studying alot on TE lately since it looks like that's what i'm going to end up running. I noticed for starters, if I use say a pm6 through TE, that the rpm's on the side bar never seem to extend past 7400 rpm, even if you raise the rev limiter through the program. Why is this? Is it because of the 15x15 grid you're limited to or what? Reason I ask is it looks like my b16a is going to end up running off a pm6 that i have, and I don't want to end up losing everything at only 7400 rpm on a dohc vtec And would someone please explain to me what exactly is the "ng60" code? Is this something I'm going to need a hex editor for, or some kind of assembly editor? I know it's possible to do dual maps on a pm6, but is that for boost only or can i run it as a dual table for vtec fuel and timing and have boost also? It's been a long time since i followed up on any of this stuff, so i'm pretty much lost anymore. Hell, everytime I read up on pgmfi.org i seem to leave there more confused than anything :1 Anyway, I'm about 2 steps away from just going back to obd1 and just chip a p28 (if i can ever find another one ) to run this damn thing, but i'd really like to give TE a try.

 

convert to obd1 and use crome...you'll be much happier.

 

if you are running a b16, have you looked into BRE? it was designed for obd0 vtec roms...

 

Well, i would...but i'd like to try and use what i already have if i can. I've spent more than enough money on this car in the past 8 months, and if i can do it with a pm6 and TE, i'd like to.

I have looked into BRE...only problem is i don't have a pr3 or pw0 ecu...only a pm6 and a pr4 :P And for what a pr3 and pw0 are going for these days, i'd be better off in obd1 land.

 

from what i understand...though i may be competly wrong...

1. you tune the last column (7400) for your max rpm...

2. the latest "stable code" with all the options in it...use this to copy your fuel/ign. tables into...

3. no vtak here so im not sure...i would guess its just the single table and tune your upper rpms for when vtec is engaged, and the lower rpms for when not.

 

I don't know about that "last column" deal...that seems a little shady, especially since the turbo i have starts spooling at 4500+ rpm. The motor will be built to handle around the 9k-9500 range, so that's around 2000 rpm to try and guess at while under full boost. No thanks. If I can find a pr3 or pw0, i'll use BRE...if not, i guess crome or uberdata and obd1 own me :P

 

yes, if you are building a motor to rev that high, convert to OBD1...i dont even belive BRE has provisions for ~9500 rpms.

 

Looks like I don't have much of a choice :P Seems like every pr3 or pw0 I find up on ebay's still going for alotta skrilla, so in the long run it pretty much would almost be cheaper and way easier to run a p28.

 

It really is the better way to go...