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rudebwoy 09-23-2008 07:38 PM

E85 tuning
 
of all the research and threads I read about tuning with E85, I understand that you have to tune the car to see lower AFR's if I wanna run 14.7 I have to tune to see 9.1 when using e85.
am I misunderstanding this? does it means that on my wideband readout I need to see 9.1 or I need to see 14.7 ?
I did some thinking, and what I am understanding makes no sense to me.
so my thinking came up with this. if I tune the car to read 14.7 AFR on the wideband, the actual AFR that the car will be using is 9.1 AFR while using E85 correct me if I am wrong.
please break it down gentle for me at tele tubby level.
I used e85 before, but becuse of my misunderstanding I was running the wideband at 10.1 afr usng a 50/50 mix of gas and ethanol.

please only educated replies, thank you.

HMTguy 09-23-2008 09:10 PM

Re: E85 tuning
 
Stoich is at a different ratio for E85, you tune your wideband to that ratio. Throw 14.7 out the window. Hope your injectors are up to the task :6

rudebwoy 09-24-2008 07:36 AM

Re: E85 tuning
 
what about a 50/50 mix of e85 and 93?

DreaMer 09-24-2008 10:04 AM

Re: E85 tuning
 
since lambda is set for gasoline it'll read just like gasoline. 14.7 actually is 9.1...simple

rudebwoy 09-24-2008 10:23 AM

Re: E85 tuning
 

Originally Posted by DreaMer
since lambda is set for gasoline it'll read just like gasoline. 14.7 actually is 9.1...simple

thats the answer I am trying to hear, but due to the lack of straight forward info I read too much into it. all I wanna know is do have to tune to see 9.1 AFR on the wideband, or 14.7.

DreaMer 09-24-2008 10:26 AM

Re: E85 tuning
 
14.7 cause like I was saying. Your lambda is set for gasoline, Im actually running on e85 right now, good stuff, 2 degrees advanced timing and 2.5 degrees in boost. It just reads normally, 14's means Im at stoich point...11-12's means Im hitting boost

Birdley42008 09-24-2008 10:51 AM

Re: E85 tuning
 
e85 = 85% ethanol 15% gasoline

50/50 mix of gasoline and e85 = stupidity!

rudebwoy 09-24-2008 01:53 PM

Re: E85 tuning
 

Originally Posted by Birdley42008
e85 = 85% ethanol 15% gasoline

50/50 mix of gasoline and e85 = stupidity!

how is that stupidity? if you run 1/2 tank of gas and 1/2 tank e85 aren't you just changing the %

Birdley42008 09-24-2008 03:01 PM

Re: E85 tuning
 
It would be like 65% gas 35% ethanol! so e35!

stenseltizm 09-24-2008 04:42 PM

Re: E85 tuning
 

Originally Posted by Birdley42008
It would be like 65% gas 35% ethanol! so e35!

you're not good at math are you?


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