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SDRAWKCAB 01-02-2008 12:56 AM

Cheap Wideband Display?
 
Ok, I have been looking around for a cheap wideband display and I cant find any.

I researched a little and I have found a couple of people using voltmeters for widebands besides the JAW.
The problem with digital voltmeters is that they only update 2-3 per second which is too slow.

I have a LC-1 that I bought from Xeno. I have a LABTOP but im gonna leave the o2 in for permanent install and I want something just to keep a eye on things.
So heres the real question can I use a analog voltmeter with the lc-1? ???

SDRAWKCAB 01-02-2008 01:11 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
somthing like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/VOLTMETER-DC-0-5...sid=p1638.m118

HMTguy 01-02-2008 04:56 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
Damn that's ghetto. I'm sure you could rig it up to work.

SDRAWKCAB 01-02-2008 10:43 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
ANYONE?

brettsb16a2 01-02-2008 11:06 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
You can also use a turbo timer, i read somewhere that multimeters respond slowly. Its on here somewhere that the turbo timer was exactly with the lc-1 showing with a labtop. what ever you use, its only for a reference but not for tuning. Gauges really aren't that expensive, probably the time and parts it will be 60 bucks.

SDRAWKCAB 01-02-2008 11:38 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
Iv been reading more on the subject and it seems the lc-1s analog out put is 0v=7.35afr 5v=22.39afr.
That makes everything a pain in the ass.

I found a gauge cheaper the the o meter but its analog.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/a...play-p-57.html

stenseltizm 01-02-2008 12:11 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Iv been reading more on the subject and it seems the lc-1s analog out put is 0v=7.35afr 5v=22.39afr.
That makes everything a pain in the ass.

if those settings won't work for you, you can reprogram them.

brettsb16a2 01-02-2008 12:36 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Iv been reading more on the subject and it seems the lc-1s analog out put is 0v=7.35afr 5v=22.39afr.
That makes everything a pain in the ass.

I found a gauge cheaper the the o meter but its analog.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/a...play-p-57.html


Oh yeah.... you need to change the voltages the way you want it, it has two separate outputs. When i had my afc with my P2t obd2 ecu i programmed the lc1 to lie to the ecu's O2 sensor input so that it wouldn't throw check engine lights and so that the ecu wouldn't try to lean out my rich mixture. Now both outs the same voltage because i converted to obd1 so that i can datalog and my wideband gauge that i bought with the lc1.

reactone 01-03-2008 11:23 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Iv been reading more on the subject and it seems the lc-1s analog out put is 0v=7.35afr 5v=22.39afr.
That makes everything a pain in the ass.

I found a gauge cheaper the the o meter but its analog.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/a...play-p-57.html

IIRC, you'll have to rescale the LC-1 at the top because honda ECUs will clip the voltage reading to 3.5 or so.

Chris Harris 01-03-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Iv been reading more on the subject and it seems the lc-1s analog out put is 0v=7.35afr 5v=22.39afr.
That makes everything a pain in the ass.

I found a gauge cheaper the the o meter but its analog.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/a...play-p-57.html

The O-Meter has sooooooo much more functionality than most guys know.

Peak Displays, Contrast adjustment....etc.

fe3tcourier 01-03-2008 05:19 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
that ometer is pretty cool. it would be nice if it had a 1-2v input though :-) direct display with no corrections.

still, programming the output to 1 - 2 volt = 10 - 20 afr and hooking it straight to a dvm panel with the decimal shifted works nicely and is cheap as chips.

Chaos325 01-05-2008 10:42 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
I use the innovative DB gauge with my LC-1

Eville140 01-05-2008 02:49 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
About as cheap as you are going to get is a flat panel 2volt digital meter.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-1-2-Blue-LCD-D...sid=p1638.m118

SDRAWKCAB 01-05-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by Eville140
About as cheap as you are going to get is a flat panel 2volt digital meter.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-1-2-Blue-LCD-D...sid=p1638.m118

Ok so if I get this all I would have to do is reconfigure the output on the lc1 to 1-2 volts?

HMTguy 01-05-2008 02:56 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Ok so if I get this all I would have to do is reconfigure the output on the lc1 to 1-2 volts?

Yes, anything you want.

Eville140 01-05-2008 03:59 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
you would just make 1v=10:1 and 2v 20:1


fe3tcourier 01-06-2008 07:31 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by Eville140
you would just make 1v=10:1 and 2v 20:1

yes, or it would be a pointless and useless exercise :-)

dcg9381 02-04-2008 01:34 AM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 

Originally Posted by fe3tcourier
yes, or it would be a pointless and useless exercise :-)

Just reset one of the outputs for the desired voltage range and use a regular narrowband 02 display... Just understand that lean is now going to mean LEAN, just just lean of stoich.

marcj 02-05-2008 10:58 PM

Re: Cheap Wideband Display?
 
moates o-meter ftw.. i disappointed with the shitty visibility of my plx R300 in day light, so i'll be tucking it away with an o-meter mounted somewhere to view and leave the plx for strictly datalogging.


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