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SkunT 09-11-2007 10:19 PM

Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Is there any way to change the RPM column in Crome free?

Can you do it in Pro?

Chris Harris 09-11-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
just double click on the row heading

SkunT 09-11-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
I did that and it went right back to default.

Tom-Guy 09-11-2007 11:18 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Never even tried to.

What's going on that you need to do this?

Guy-Fast 09-11-2007 11:27 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Never even tried to.

What's going on that you need to do this?



agrreed didnt even know you could. Plenty of room for mods yo

SkunT 09-11-2007 11:27 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
friend of mine brought up the fact that if you could change the RPM's, you could tune it even finer. I guess other programs (other tuning programs) you have that ability.


example, Instead of having intervals, 500-602, 3500-4000...etc, you could input your own numbers
...say instead of reading between 3500-4000, you could add a row of 3750 to tune in that RPM range as well...especially in the upper RPM's, or at the crossover point.

or is this just a retarded thought and should I not worry about it?...or did the hardcore tuning newbie and his friend think of something new for crome...or even ectune? :l

Guy-Fast 09-11-2007 11:42 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
pointless


I tuned a 290 whp 15.1 compression h23+ on crome dual 80mm manifold set up. Ticking timing bomb that didnt blow



I doubt you need anything more than that thing needed.

SkunT 09-11-2007 11:44 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
humm...ok.

Guy-Fast 09-11-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
well what are you running



simple b18 all motor set up



stock p72 ignition map
set afr at 13.1



stock 240's are plenty
max out inj in duty cycle
crank fpr up has needed




done


SkunT 09-12-2007 12:42 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
yeah, I understand that... but like, in the low cam tables, there are a ton of rows that will never be touched. vtec is open, low cam is completly gone, its switched to high cam, correct?

Why not utilize the tables that are there?


Guy-Fast 09-12-2007 12:49 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
yeah, I understand that... but like, in the low cam tables, there are a ton of rows that will never be touched. vtec is open, low cam is completly gone, its switched to high cam, correct?

Why not utilize the tables that are there?




que?



vtec side table with a simple set up doesnt need ignition changes. I have yet to see any real power gains advancing timing with such simple all motor builds. if anything the opposite has been true




SkunT 09-12-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
how about the fuel maps?

Tom-Guy 09-12-2007 06:17 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Poop.

reactone 09-12-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Poop.

This is intriguing. Please, explain further...

Tom-Guy 09-12-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Are you really asking for tubgirl? :l

SkunT 09-12-2007 07:22 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
just double click on the row heading

I would like to know if Chris knows something...it seems as if he might, with this post.

Chris Harris 09-13-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
I would like to know if Chris knows something...it seems as if he might, with this post.

Sure...if you think you need more resolution...all you need to do is DOUBLE CLICK the row heading and type in a new number and hit enter. Just go down the row...

You dont really need to honestly as these guys pointed out, but you can if you wish to.

Jcushing 09-13-2007 01:39 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
the extra resoulution seems nice if your using low cam maps only on a non vtec motor usung a p72 map. i tried it but felt it wasnt worth the hassle as now the rpm points are going to be all difference on your timing map too. this would completely skew your timing tables.

most of my fuel values seem to be pretty flat above 6k rpm anyway so by all means try it but make sure you know what your doing. for me it seemed pointless.

SkunT 09-14-2007 07:25 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by xenocron
Sure...if you think you need more resolution...all you need to do is DOUBLE CLICK the row heading and type in a new number and hit enter. Just go down the row...

You dont really need to honestly as these guys pointed out, but you can if you wish to.

yeah, I can get it to highlight, and I can input a #...but it wont change.

MAJORAHOLE 09-14-2007 08:52 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
you mean it will change back right when you click off? i had that happen to me. i forget how to fix it, there was just a certain way i had to put in the numbers to get them to stay. maybe like try to change it to 0 first then go and try and change it again? i don't remeber for sure. i know the most recent version of crome free doesn't have this prob tho.

SkunT 09-14-2007 09:21 AM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by MAJORAHOLE
you mean it will change back right when you click off? i had that happen to me. i forget how to fix it, there was just a certain way i had to put in the numbers to get them to stay. maybe like try to change it to 0 first then go and try and change it again? i don't remeber for sure. i know the most recent version of crome free doesn't have this prob tho.

yeah, i was gonna re-dl that.

Inquisition 09-14-2007 02:05 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Crome's code won't let you change the first and last row. Also you can only use certain values in the rpm box. If they aren't allow, they change them back.

HMTdmc 09-14-2007 08:49 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Yeah I changed the rpms on my accord map when I first started tuning it seemed like a good idea when I was using a map that started out as a b series vtec low cam map and my redline is 6500. After awhile I ditched that rom when I figured out I could import the timing maps from an p13 i think f22 prelude.

So changing rpm resolution really isn't needed.

SkunT 09-14-2007 08:52 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
idle'ing at 1200rpms.

Why the hell would I need any rows under 1200rpms to tune with?

IDK, I just think it would make more sense to have 4 other rows between 1200 and 9000rpms...

HMTdmc 09-14-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
idle'ing at 1200rpms.

Why the hell would I need any rows under 1200rpms to tune with?

IDK, I just think it would make more sense to have 4 other rows between 1200 and 9000rpms...

trust me don't mess with that crome is hard enough to get a good idle out of sometimes, You really would want to increase idle resolution more then anything.

Inquisition 09-14-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 
Sometimes your rpm drops unexpectedly? Obviously you haven't been cruising around with chipped OBD1 ECUs very long as it's pretty normal to get minor rpm variations at times. Especially on the older code. If you want to change the rpm points, get ready to do some math interpolating what values you should put in. There is a decent amount of work involved in ------- around with rpm/load headings that most simply don't realize. These same people wonder why their power isn't there, the fuel economy has went to ----, and they have a shutter.

SkunT 09-14-2007 09:04 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by Inquisition
Sometimes your rpm drops unexpectedly? Obviously you haven't been cruising around with chipped OBD1 ECUs very long as it's pretty normal to get minor rpm variations at times. Especially on the older code. If you want to change the rpm points, get ready to do some math interpolating what values you should put in. There is a decent amount of work involved in ------- around with rpm/load headings that most simply don't realize. These same people wonder why their power isn't there, the fuel economy has went to ----, and they have a shutter.

so I have to spend a little time to mess around with that. So what? and I don't have a problem per say with my idle, I just don't see a reason for 4 rows under my idle RPM....thats all. I think it would be more useful in other areas...

Why am I retarded for thinking that?

HMTdmc 09-14-2007 09:28 PM

Re: Changing RPM's in Crome
 

Originally Posted by junkyard racer
so I have to spend a little time to mess around with that. So what? and I don't have a problem per say with my idle, I just don't see a reason for 4 rows under my idle RPM....thats all. I think it would be more useful in other areas...

Why am I retarded for thinking that?

Your not retarded for thinking that way but you do need the columns below your idle to pretty much stay the way they are if your iac starts acting up a little or you get the crome problem where idle will fall on it's face when your coming to a stop. Inqusition is being over dramatic though.
basicaly I under why your thinking about rpm resolution but in the end it doesn't help anything and it's not needed.


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