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This might sound funny to you guys but Hmt helped me do my first turbo honda and has helped me with my 00Si which is boosted now...But Im taking the kit off this weekend..and selling it to a friend..So for the next few months the car will be back to basically stock form...I have I/h/E to go back on it...But my question is..I want a little more out of the motor with these mods....I have a chipped p28 and 450 ccs that im keeping...If I was to use these could use these to make a little more power...Or am I just going in circles..Thanks for the help...

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ask xenocron to burn you an all motor basemap on your specs

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Yeah thats what I was thinking cause he burned my p28 computer...WAs wondering has anyone else has done this before and what kind of gains they may have gotten...

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You are not going to see much gains in hp and the 450s will be over kill for the setup. But if you are changing fuel you are going to need
a new base map for the setup, I'd just put it back stock (injectors and ecu) if you aren't going to get it tuned after the modifications.

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na b16 is still weak. Put the stock ---- on and save money to boost it again or just keep your current setup.

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Yeah I know the b16 is still weak..No damn torque...But I was the only one in my area with an si boosted so I dont want to go all the way back to stock power..Thats gonna suck..just trying to get a little extra out of it..

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you going to be punching yourself in the nuts for going back n/a

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I know man..But with the money Im buying 95 Hatch...I got a LS Motor that Im putting in it after a slight build...Then I will boost that car again....My Em1 Im just going to do cosmetic stuff to it..But would like some extra Hp out of the b...

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buy a cheap ls block, and put the b16 head on it. It's the best way to make use of anything B16.

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+100hp

ls heads flow like virgin -------

b16 heads flow like your moms gaping fisted vagina

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All gains in power in a NA setup are from promoting flow, and keeping the AFRs from leaning out to the point you aren't combusting all the air, and adjusting cam gears. Since you have stock ----, newsflash: your cam gears are within 1-3 whp of where they should be, you want to drop $$$ on dyno time to bring that out? Because you aren't bringing NA power out on the street.

Stock or built to the gills, an 81mm NA B-series will make best power at 30-32 degrees final timing. Which the stock ECU gives you out of the box. The stock ECU also supplies enough fuel for a stock B16 with riceboy crap bolted to it. Sounds like your stock ECU is the winner.

Quoted to mock you for your complete lack of knowledge.

B16 ports and 92+ LS "big port" heads are pretty close port-wise. The fuckage is the 31 vs 33mm intake valves, and *the stock LS cam*. Now, stock ITR with bolt ons and a tune lays 160-165 whp on my dyno whereas an LS with B16 pistons (maybe .5 CR more compression) and 403 cams (lesser cam than stock ITR) and equivalent bolt-ons makes 170-173 whp, with the LS having 20-something wtq more in the midrange. The same LS setup with 404s are known to kiss 200 whp.

The marginally smaller but still wonderfully-flowing LS heads have a lot better port velocity if you want both peak power and a lot more midrange in a sub-200 whp car, and they do it for a lot cheaper than VTEC anything.

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took long enough for that blatant LS slam to get you to reply

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I love you, too. :)

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Thanks Joe...Just trying to figure out what to do..But dont want to spend a whole bunch of money if I dont have to...The LS motor will be put in another car that I find probally around the 1st of the year...Im just trying to get a little more out of the Si...

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It's a 2750+ lb vehicle with a 1.6 liter that makes less torque to the wheels than the stock camshaft D16 in my beater. Your little more was the turbo kit, and you are selling it. ???

Repeat after me: cams, compression, flow. You induced a lot of the latter two with a turbo, what are you going to do to affect one or more of these three now that it's coming off?

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But I think the rexer wants to get extra cash by selling his turbo kit so he can buy a 95 hatch, dump some money into that and boost it. If it was upto me, I'd rather have one extra clean 00' boosted Si running excelent. Then an na Si and an na 95'd16 hatch that probably needs some work. Going back to na is like having your girlfriend/wife remove her full silicone implants and go back to a b cup. Just doesn't make sence son. ;D

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Yeah you are exactly right...I sold the kit for $900 dollars....I already have a low mileage ls motor...Im gonna buy a 92-95 hatch or Coupe...its been two days since I sold the kit and man the car just falls on its face pretty bad..But It looks good....I will just deal with it until I put together the new car.