AEM Wideband wiring
 

In November of last year I bought an AEM Wideband gauge, just the gauge. Its a 30-4223 model gauge. Now I'm getting around to wiring it up to my AEM EMS 30-1040U and I can't find a pinout diagram. However I did find a PDF file in AEMpro that says its only compatible with UEGO controllers 30-2300 and 30-2301. Does this mean that its not gonna work with my EMS? Or does someone out there know how to wire it up?

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I have always advocated hooking up any AEM wideband to wall voltage, after dousing yourself wih gasoline.


I've never dealt with the onboard wideband EMS, but their standalone wideband is the worst one on the market, that ---- isn't even remotely close to accurate.

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u talking about the uego jd?

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How many widebands does AEM make, John? If there's a new one on the market I'm happy to test it and let you know what I think.

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i have a single channel uego without the gauge. Had it for a little over a month before it took a ---- on me. Now i gotta find another one.

so far i have tried zeitronix, innovate, and aem. None of them had made me very happy. however, the zeitronix on board logging was pretty damn nice. I liked it better than Crome's logging. Thats not saying much anyway, lol.

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Crome's logging, like all of the Honda GUIs, is partially based on your laptop's ability to crunch packets. I'm getting 60+ frames per second with eCtune, close to 100 on cold days. T8300, 2gigs RAM, stripper version of XP. I'd guess I'd do similarly with Crome, haven't used it in a hot minute though.

The Innovative widebands may be a neccesary evil as the need for a serial wideband grows. I'd love to see inexpensive USB ADCs such as the DLP Designs IO8 become embraced like it has in the Nissan scene, making analog widebands serial-compatible. People knock them, and I agree they aren't the greatest, but the PLX units last forever. NGK AFX are also nice. If you could make them serial, oh joy.

I spent three hours yesterday to script a VI in LabVIEW so I could use my ni.com USB-6009 as a logger for an SRT4 I tuned yesterday. I'd really like to make a robust stand-alone logger utility out of it that can be configured with variable size matrixes for a variety of standalones and reverse engineered OEM stuffs that has ------- crappy datalogging. Microtech, Nemesis because nobody brings me one equipped with a wideband and trying to buy one of the $$$ wideband add-ons for them is a two week process, etc.

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yea, the innovate was just too finicky for me. The re-calibration stuff really got me angry and it was just so damn as to where it wanted the grounds at to get a consistent reading. I havent looked at my frames per second but it logs pretty damn fast.

I've got an HP with 2gbs of RAM and 1.79Ghz processor and i must say that ectune runs very fast. Faster than i could ever get crome to run.

I might as well move on down the line and try out the new PLX units. The ways things are now, its worth a shot and i might as well just keep going down the list until i find one that i am satisfied with.

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For the moment im actually happy with my uego. I don't like its single output but as long as I can run a narrowband as well I dont mind. It does have a serial output though, but ill never end up using it.

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Wait until you compare it to 3-5 other widebands that agree with each other, but not with your "uego"

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I realy like my plx, m300. Its been in I dont know how many cars. But its a trooper.

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has anyone tried the Summit-racing 2 1/16" digital wideband kit. It comes with:
* Controller
* Wideband O2 sensor
* O2 bung
* Wiring harness
* Innovate logging software

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Just throwing that out there....haven't heard of anyone on here using it. One of my friends from school ordered it for his sr20 240 and said it worked for like a week, then needed to be recalibrated, but then its been fine ever since. That was at least 3-4 months ago.

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That's an innovate LC-1.

PLX m300 rules. :y

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plx = a bit better narrowband :1

its cool when you love those rice bling bling stuff, but far faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away to be accurate

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_X0qiKiqN1...0/chart_lg.jpg

the full articel
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...tout/index.php

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My dyno sheet readings say otherwise. It's pretty ------- accurate.

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Fail, got to have a subscription login to view page 2. That's where the results are.

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X2

Mine was dead on with the dyno's wideband

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http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/r...B_Shootout.pdf ::) ::) google hates you

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TY, much better. By the way i just bought a brand new Lc-1 kit with DB gauge for 240 shipped.

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Well hot damn! That means that the dyno's wideband was off +1afr too. Because mine was dead tits with it. I think that it could be a bias test. Have some joe run the tests. That would be like honda running aganst all the other jap cars and say that honda tested the best out of all or them.

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Well, that article is complete horseshit. If I was PLX I'd bitch about the wiring, too. That electrical system is NOT robust, it's a bunch of wires black taped to single 14 gauge wires meant to support >25 amps worth of load. Further, I didn't see a lab-grade power supply pictured or mentioned - and they were expecting lab-grade results? FM has less understanding of electronics than a butt-splice and black tape car stereo installer retard. :1

When you take into account that half of those units have switching power supplies (Innovate does, has a seperate ground wire for it, recommends it's not located very close to the signal ground - for a reason) which cause ground path and voltage fluctuations that run all over the units with linear power supplies.

I have never seen an accurate AEM unit, they are the ones that are +/- 1 AFR. Tony Palo has posted the same on HT, as have others. They are joke meters.

The unit I use most frequently is a PLX. It is repeatable, and fairly accurate. As for it's calibration? My particular unit agrees with an NGK AFX (which Tony Palo also praises - he uses one frequently) and an Innovate LM-1 that are equipped on Aaron Lail's dyno (Aaron tuned Donovan's Stratus that, last I hear, came within 0.003 seconds of the track record at Rockingham)... the AEM unit that was hooked up that day was the unit that was a whole point off. My PLX also agrees with both BRMS' PLXs, and a friend's LC-1. Do I recommend them to anyone? No, not really. It's just every other wideband I've owned (9+) took a big fat fiery dump while the PLX keeps on running - it's been running for almost four years now. It does have issues with response time, and is very sensitive to ground locations, although it is a dead nuts simple readout. I've tuned cars that have been on television, and been together for years, off of my PLX unit. Meh.

I semi-hate Innovate products. Despite what FM had to say, the wiring instructions are NOT overly complex (shows you FM's level of understanding). Klaus @ Innovate knows his ----, and it shows in his product. Everything about Klaus shows in their product... crotchety, nit-picky, talk about a unit you have to jump through hoops and continuously remove to redo the calibration. They work great when they work - the rest of the time you are recalibrating it. Again. :3

Now, you can choose to listen to magazines whose content is for sale to anyone buying advertising, or you can listen to an anti-social ------- who's burnt a lot of bridges in the aftermarket by telling off faggots who perpetrate bad tech in order to sell parts. Only one entity is shooting from the hip - the other is shooting for your wallet.

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I love how JD jumped in here and laid down the fucken lawz.

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i feel your pain JD. I haven't been in the game as long as you have and i'm on my 4th or 5th wideband.

btw JD, i really like the PLX unit lol

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It does the job. You'd think I'd be more affectionate with respects to a piece of equipment that's lasted me so long when it is decent, if admittedly not the best.

I'd settle for an Innovative that I can override the need for recalibration when I KNOW the calibration is fine. If I calibrated it fifteen minutes ago, and the battery voltage dips below 9 volts for a second during cranking because it has crimped-connection-that-fall-apart-professional-car-stereo-installer-ground-straps that are ------- suck because there are NO professional car stereo installers on Earth that know wtf they are doing, NO the calibration has not changed so stop making me jump through ------- hoops. :1