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fork 10-01-2008 08:41 PM

2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
So a friend of mine is working on a customers car with a full Greddy turbo kit. He is getting paid to make it pass emissions, and we're both well aware of the quality of the ecu and kit in general and how unlikely it is to pass emissions. None the less we need to make it pass. In IL as long as the car has all the readiness codes passed you pass, however if there are readiness codes that are incomplete they will put the car on the rollers and then it surely won't pass. It has not passed the evap, catalyst, and O2 readiness codes even though all the parameters seem to be fine. Any ideas??? I'm lost, I've never really messed with this emissions readiness code ----, and he is an acura tech and has access to every scanner known to man and we are stumped.

BigBird 10-01-2008 09:08 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
Greddy ecu = blue box? Why not put the stock ecu in a block down the road, roll up there, pass and put the greddy ecu back in?

fork 10-01-2008 09:19 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
Yes its the blue box, Thats kind of what are are doing now. We think it may have somethign to do with the map sensor, so we are disconnecting the map sensor from running through the greddy ecu now. We are slightly worried about running it with no management kind of, but we are just going to drive and keep it out of boost.

brettsb16a2 10-02-2008 12:13 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by fork
Yes its the blue box, Thats kind of what are are doing now. We think it may have somethign to do with the map sensor, so we are disconnecting the map sensor from running through the greddy ecu now. We are slightly worried about running it with no management kind of, but we are just going to drive and keep it out of boost.

Open up your pipes, change out the waste gate spring, do whatever it takes to bring down your boost pressure then run the stock ecu a block down the road like stated. You guys make this harder then it really is. 2 hours of work to pass emissions for a year or what ever your state requires aint crap. :3

turbo4life 10-02-2008 02:49 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
if its a greddy kit take off the waste gate actuator arm..

txdohczc 10-02-2008 06:22 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
i say disconnect the charge pipe to where the engine wont see boost then put in factory ecu...bam done

-SKUM- 10-02-2008 06:48 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by txdohczc
i say disconnect the charge pipe to where the engine wont see boost then put in factory ecu...bam done

dont even deed to disconect the charge pipe (just stay out of boost). just swap ecus a block down the street...... bam done

krustindumm 10-02-2008 08:33 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by txdohczc
i say disconnect the charge pipe to where the engine wont see boost then put in factory ecu...bam done

along with the turbo

txdohczc 10-03-2008 12:18 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by ratcityrex
dont even deed to disconect the charge pipe (just stay out of boost). just swap ecus a block down the street...... bam done

well i dont know about the test centers in his neck of the woods but i have heard that the guy doing the tests puts it on the rollers and drives and that they will put it in boost. and thats why i said disconnect the charge pipes

supernewb 10-03-2008 12:44 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
why not just take the waisgait spring out?

txdohczc 10-03-2008 01:46 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
because your an idiot

supernewb 10-03-2008 05:08 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by txdohczc
because your an idiot

but if you took the sping out it would not make any boost and if they looked under the hood there would not be any pipes unhooked and there would be no chance of them blowing it up with the stock ecu

BigBird 10-03-2008 05:12 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by supernewb
but if you took the sping out it would not make any boost and if they looked under the hood there would not be any pipes unhooked and there would be no chance of them blowing it up with the stock ecu

yeah it's not like the pinner greddy turbo could overspool and get fucked up.

n20civicb18 10-08-2008 10:01 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by txdohczc
well i dont know about the test centers in his neck of the woods but i have heard that the guy doing the tests puts it on the rollers and drives and that they will put it in boost. and thats why i said disconnect the charge pipes

His car is OBDII, It does not need to see the rollers, just pass the OBDII tests. If he did need to run it on the dyno you do not need enough throttle to see boost, if you give it that much throttle it will send you out of the parameters anyway and they will have to redo the test. By pass the Greddy box, Run off the stock map and if it has bigger injectors/map then put the stock stuff on and run it, stay out of boost but drive it for a good 50 miles before bringing it in for inspection OR just plug a different car into the machine.

turbo4life 10-28-2008 07:08 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
set if on fire >:D

txdohczc 10-28-2008 10:54 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
after 20 days thats all you could think of :S

Tom-Guy 10-31-2008 01:58 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
Disconnecting charge pipe overspins and kills the turbo. Producing boost puts a restriction on how much can be flowed across the compressor, which limits shaftspeed so it doesn't hit riceboy-thousand rpms and ---- up the shaft/bearings within ten minutes.

If readiness codes aren't set GUESS WHAT??? The ECU has most likely been reset recently and hasn't run long enough to set readiness codes, and it sure hasn't tripped a CEL. You need to idle the car long enough for the fans to cut on and off twice, then drive the car 2-3 miles without hitting boost, readiness codes set or CEL set. ------- with the MAP won't do anything for the O2, evap, non-MAP circuit operation. :(

krustindumm 11-04-2008 07:49 PM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Disconnecting charge pipe overspins and kills the turbo. Producing boost puts a restriction on how much can be flowed across the compressor, which limits shaftspeed so it doesn't hit riceboy-thousand rpms and ---- up the shaft/bearings within ten minutes.

I tried to warn of that as well.

Tom-Guy 11-05-2008 12:25 AM

Re: 2003 civic SI with greddy ecu won't pass emissions obviously
 
Yeah, well, Mase told somebody to do it back in '04 and now all the riceboys think it's the greatest idea ever.


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