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Old 11-28-2008, 08:11 AM
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are you fucken nuts I'm not going to read all that. geez my eye's hurt already.

and your right there aren't any real democracies on this planet. but closest i would say would be 1776-1861 Americas.

well anyways this is a necessary thing for the human race to experience anyways. we are creating this. destruction to no end if necessary.

recorded history has only a constituent fraction of real human history. we just need to build on working out our social kinks. hopefully before our technology destroys us.
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:47 AM
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Interesting that you'd pick the era of state's rights as the era of democracy.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tough-guy
Better dead than Red.
that's what she said!
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by J.H.Christ
what, you think because you've been a tourist in europe that you are somehow an authority here?
who says im a tourist. i fucken live there dumbass.


oh and Isnt France the only real true democracy?
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Originally Posted by signorelli21
Read it for yourself, then tell me how their perfect society is any different.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx...festo/ch02.htm
how about you stop quoting everything you read on the internet. as if its 100% fact.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by blade8r
yep totally true there.. As we all know the nation of China is a big failure...
Yes it is, they have a growth based economy where they throw all of their capital into production, due to the fact that they are currently now producing more than the world consumes they are heading towards a recession, also since most of the companies over there are based here in the us they are being forced to lay off workers, in china the people that work in alot of the factories are called migratory workers who come from all over the country and live in dorms, when they get laid off they riot, also don;t get me started on their non existant environmental standards, human rights violations, or the fact that the internet and every other type of media is heavily censored.

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your a ------- indoctrinated idiot... if you think democracy is any better then Communism, or Fascism, and or Hereditary rule etc etc.
Actually I am not, I am a free thinking American and I don't believe to have said that one was better then anouther, just that the miracle society they are proposing is not something new ( the "Communist Manifesto" was written in 1850) and as you can see from the former Soviet Union and the current states of China and North Korea their system of government is alot worse than what we have, which by the way is not a Democracy.

the point of the movie is that it all boils down the monetary system. the system very flawed and is the basis of all corruption. take money out of the picture and it's almost a guarantee improvement then how the system works today.

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the point of the movie is that it all boils down the monetary system. the system very flawed and is the basis of all corruption. take money out of the picture and it's almost a guarantee improvement then how the system works today.
Yes and thats not accurate, they are biased against money and personal property and are trying to sway you to their viewpoint.

The Central banking system is a problem because its not transparent, if we were allowed to audit the federal reserve and they still posted the M3 ( like they used to, in the movie they showed a graph showing debt vs inflationa and it stopped at 2006, know why? its because in MArch of 2006 the fed stopped posting the M3 which is a report of all the dollars in circulation, includin offshore commercial accounts, ect. since we don;t know how much money is out there the value of it is based on pure speculation.)

Also, we did just fine until they started getting rid of the laws that governed the system, like the Bretton-woods agreement (AKA the gold standard) the Glass-Steagall act which created the FDIC and controlled speculation (which helped create the current economic failure) and others.

But hey, since I disagree with the video on the internet I obviously am wrong................. who's indoctrinated again?


Originally Posted by kain
how about you stop quoting everything you read on the internet. as if its 100% fact.
I own the book, but don't have a scanner, trust me thats what it really says. :1

oh, did you read it?
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:56 PM
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They obviously present you with fact then give you a perverse answer that benefits their viewpoint. They're techno-commies and JD summed it up with the Frisco speech. I suggest you read it as it contains a solid doctrine to live by, rather than that alien garbage you chose to subject us to.
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Old 11-28-2008, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kain
how about you stop quoting everything you read on the internet. as if its 100% fact.
what part of it isn't fact?
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rawr
They obviously present you with fact then give you a perverse answer that benefits their viewpoint. They're techno-commies and JD summed it up with the Frisco speech. I suggest you read it as it contains a solid doctrine to live by, rather than that alien garbage you chose to subject us to.
Yep, actually its just a scam. If you go to their website its pretty funny because they have built a prototype version of that city on 21 acres in florida, its funny because the only people that live there are that old guy and his assistant, oh and its also for sale http://www.flalandsale.com/

Their company is split in two different parts, theres a 501c (not for profit) called "future by design" which you can donate money to help fund ....whatever?

Also there is their FOR PROFIT company that sells DVD's and all kinds of ---- related to never never land http://www.thevenusproject.com/shop/

You know for people that spend all their time ridiculing capitalism they sure have made it work to their advantage.

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Old 11-29-2008, 06:03 AM
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i disagree with you signorelli21 about your perspective.

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the Venus project is just an idea. every society has it's problems i just don't know one that we the human race can transition into with ease.
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