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Old 01-17-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I have not seen any evidence that any domestic to domestic phone calls were tapped.
did u read.. ANY of the quotes from the articles i posted? 30 thousand people.. including companies.. and organizations..

steve. i have not seen evidence or an article that says international calls were the only ones tapped...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060117...e_060117175112

Civil liberties groups fired double-barrelled lawsuits at President George W. Bush, challenging the legality of his domestic eavesdropping programme and demanding its immediate suspension.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/...ion=cnn_latest

U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Friday that he will testify in a Senate hearing on the National Security Agency's recently revealed domestic eavesdropping program.
still dont beileve me?

search for domestic wiretaps..
http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/se...s-t&fl=0&x=wrt

johnny.. its still not going away.. new articles everywhere...

we all know gore is going to jump all over this.. as have other past presidents...
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:41 PM
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The only thing you posted supporting your argument is that it's labeled as "domestic evesdropping". If they are tapping phones of people in the U.S. used to call internationally that they believe are discussing terrorism stuff (which is what they said they are doing) than that's not "domestic" as you are trying to say. It's "domestic" as in one of the parties is here either recieving calls or initiating them.

Still nothing that says they're tapping my phone when I call down the street.
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Old 01-17-2006, 04:56 PM
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And if they are tapping my phone, I don't care. I'm not calling 1-900 numbers, the hooker down the street or osama bin laden, so why should I care.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Still nothing that says they're tapping my phone when I call down the street.
nothing says they arent.. johny has still failed to provide his source on his previous argument.
think about it steve.. why would they make a big deal out of this if they were only tapping people receving calls from terrorist countries?
they wouldnt.. steve.. why would the nsa shred proof and records of the wiretaps? against the wishes of the fbi and the cia?

again.. if they are only tapping international calls i wouldnt care about it.. neither would the aclu.. but guess what.. they are tappig whomeever the ---- they want.

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
And if they are tapping my phone, I don't care. I'm not calling 1-900 numbers, the hooker down the street or osama bin laden, so why should I care.
nieve.... this.... one ....is

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think of the bigger picture sinister..
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:09 PM
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I don't care about the bigger picture. I'm thinking about me, and this does not worry me.

I'll be worried when bin laden calls my house.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by buk9tp
apparently they can air strike a house because they got information from someone who's dad's friends co worker told him about somewhere where he was walking by and heard something about someone who said they knew someone who heard someone say they thought they heard somewhere that some dude was gonna show up at this dinner see?

and we go and bomb this house see.. in a country.. thats our ally.. and get lots more people pissed off at ***...

clever.. very clever.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060117/...ltBHNlYwM3MTY-

Pakistan: Terrorists Killed in U.S. Strike

Pakistani intelligence officials have said the target of the attack was al-Qaida's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri, who they said was invited to a dinner celebrating an Islamic holiday in the village but sent aides instead.

U.S. counterterrorism officials, however, have not ruled out that Osama bin Laden's chief lieutenant was killed.

In the first official confirmation by Pakistani authorities that militants were killed, the administration of Pakistan's semiautonomous tribal regions bordering Afghanistan said in a statement that the four or five bodies of "foreign terrorists" were taken away "by their companions."
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:37 PM
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http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...seas_contacts/

Wiretaps said to sift all overseas contacts
Vast US effort seen on eavesdropping


The NSA's system of monitoring e-mails and phone calls to check for search terms has been used for decades overseas, where the Constitution's prohibition on unreasonable searches does not apply, declassified records have shown.

But since Bush's order in 2001, Bamford and other specialists said, the same process has probably been used to sort through international messages to and from the United States, though humans have never seen the vast majority of the data.
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Old 01-17-2006, 05:38 PM
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nice

hot off the press too

By RIAZ KHAN, Associated Press Writer
3 minutes ago

but my point still stands. they cant go without the consent of the nation and drop bombs within its borders.. is it worth straining our realationship with the pakis?

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, on the eve of a trip to Washington, said that despite the importance of ties with the United States, attacks inside Pakistan "cannot be condoned."
and what about u saying it was international calls only.. id like to see that too please..

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Old 01-17-2006, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...seas_contacts/

Wiretaps said to sift all overseas contacts
Vast US effort seen on eavesdropping

so this dude wrote a book on the "inner working" of the nsa.. wow..

guess what johnny

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | December 23, 2005
''They have a capacity to listen to every overseas phone call," said Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University, which has obtained documents about the NSA using Freedom of Information Act requests.
:1 really? i didnt know that :1 FOIA huh? :1 i bet u without the whistle blower they wouldnt have known about the warrantless wiretaps.. foia or not..

im reading johnny and i dont see anywhere were it says it was international taps only.. infact.. i dont even see where it says anything about them doing it without warrants..
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so he works for the newspaper... is that wrong?
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