stillnoturbo

^^exactly. It's just the drivetrain was never made strong enough. The 6 bolt is about beefy as they come and if I ever find one cheap enough then the engine in the Z is getting pulled. While the 7 bolt is kinda like the y series sohc's with their oiling problems. It's a problem but not a life and death reason not to get one if you needed an engine badly.

AWDstylez

lol @ thread.

Tell him his car is an unreliable pile of ----, it leaks oil, MHI turbos are the most retarded design ever, his turbo is far too small, his cast manifold sucks, the motor is a piece of ---- that makes a lower HP number than whatever PSI it's boosting at. I could go on for days.

He's full of ---- about the turbine housings. DSMers are notorious for running bolt of piece of ---- Mitsu housing turbos that don't spool or flow for anything. The valvetrains also aren't anything special. Stock GS-R cams are far more aggresive than all but the most extreme aftermarket 4G63 cams, VTEC ownz joo lyfe. Stock DSM cams are a joke and extremely limiting on power. The valvetrain parts themselves are nothing amazing. It's rocker arms and hydraulic lifters that weren't designed correctly so they tick like ----------ers, nothing impressive at all so I don't know wtf he's refering to.


Main reason they suck when you're trying to make real power...

Mitsubishi went with ultra low compression instead of just tuning them correctly or designing a proper combustion chamber. They made the head ports ENORMOUS to make up for the fact that they flow like ---- (and they still flow like ----). Because of these two reasons I can run 27psi and still be one of the slowest cars on the road while any Honda running that boost is making 700+hp. Thanks Mitsubishi.

bitchasscracker

i'm really shocked jd hasnt came in here to share his hilarious hatred thoughts of dsm :P

bitchasscracker

there were too stock honda turbo'ed cars. retard

G2turbo_terror

I love DSMs but if you don't know what your doing or have a DD, your screwed.

Trying to argue technical info over cars upwards of 17 years old is lame and pointless when it envolves *** clowns like this guy, your just gonna give yourself a head ache. Tell him the only reason he has a turbo car is it came from the factory like that. If you really hate him, egg him on so he spends all his $$ on mods not preventive maintenance , it'll break and he'll be broke before summer ends

CspecRun

Main thing with those cars is maintenance...keep the oil changed and change the timing belt EVERY 60k miles....Those cars get a bad name because the ppl who buy them are impressed with the fact that they are RELATIVELY quick lil cars and so they proceed to beat the ---- out of em until they are a rollin' POS....

J-SMITH69

4g63 motor is stronger and has more power potential than any honda motor.

thats why.

stillnoturbo

exactly. Also what it's bolted to isn't the greatest. When's the last time you saw 1000hp civics that could actually use that power? Or hell that power in the first place.

BigD

Most of the people that hate them have never even had or driven one. They heard from a guy who had a cousin that read something on the internet from a guys brother in-law.

Slo_crx1

No, they have the potential to somehow utilize forced hot air and still make some sort of power out of it.
Their valvetrain is nothing special, garbage IMO, their redline is limited even on built motors. Pretty much everything AWDstyles mentioned I concur with. Not to mention every homo kid that's seen the first F&F movie thinks he has to get an eclipse to be mad ricer fast, so they get abused with no maintenence.