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Old 08-27-2007, 02:31 AM
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i should be president.

i'll secure our borders and kill peope
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:33 AM
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what arab government declared war against us?

again .01% of arabs are the so called terrorists/islamic extreamists and due to complications in religion and ideology muslims cant rise up and expel them or kill them.. thats the way it is.. sucks.. but meh.. but you can educate the people.. on both sides of the war.. u dont have to kiss anyones asses.. or bow down to them..

i said this before ill say it again.. heard it on the interwebs..

expecting arabs to expel the islamic extremists is like expecting italians to expel the mob...

not gonna happend...

not asking for isolationism but theres compromise.. through education.. through lots of other means ideology ccan be fought.. not just educating them but also educating ourselves.. i know it sounds like hippie bullshit but we are part of the problem..
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:34 AM
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isolationism has cause two world wars - fact
isolationism will cause another world war on a yet another greater scale - fact
Our isolation was the reason huh? Oh, and about this "will cause another world war - fact", which crystal ball lied to you and told you this?



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we are not killing arabs because they are fighting amoungst themselves. we're killing them because they have declared war on us, and are attacking us constantly

your suggestion is that we appease them?
Jonny, I come to your house and oust your pops. Will you be declaring war on me? I'm sure you understand the power of the media and public opinion, and how Iraqis can easily be mislead to think we're the bad guys. Boom, you have an attack. If another country comes to Farmington, MN, I'm attacking them too. Is it appeasing me if they don't come?


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another irrelevant comparison.

that is true... but irrelevant
My house (America) and my neighbors house (any other country). I'm trying to break this down in beer 30 terms..... which part of this isn't a good comparison?
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:38 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGV1ZLj-noE
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:39 AM
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name a country the united states has attacked offensively?

or any country we're conquered to gain territory?
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:41 AM
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i have to say at this point in the discussion this link is very relevant
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cY6dBN_pntg

you need education on both sides.. to show them that were not the enemy
and to teach us that they are not all the enemy. and that most of them more than 99% of them just want peace

but nooooo you got our president up there saying they hate us because of our freedom lol
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name a country the united states has attacked offensively?

or any country we're conquered to gain territory?

Hey, anyone see that Ron Paul thread were I was grillin Random?
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name a country the united states has attacked offensively?

or any country we're conquered to gain territory?
the federated states of Micronesia.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:45 AM
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ron paul is wrong on this point, one of the few things he is wrong on.

i could tear him to peices in a debate about it.

he says there was no domino effect after we left vietnam, and the communists/soviets didn't try to take over more countries directly.

maybe this is because we showed them that we would fight against this, you can bet your *** that if we wouldn't have put up a fight in korea and vietnam that they would've ------ throughout asia, instead of just north vietnam and north korea.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
name a country the united states has attacked offensively?

or any country we're conquered to gain territory?
why are we in iraq again?
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