Ron Paul.
08-27-2007, 02:05 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
If we really concentrated on protecting ourselves, nobody could attack us. Whatchu smokin?
The only reason why I would think another country would dislike us is because we've got our noses in everybodys ---- and they feel threatened, which I believe is the case with most of these countries. Unless what you're saying is the whole worlds purpose is to power grab everything possible. In that case I would nuke everyone except America and start over.
all i can say is that isolationism does not work. this has been proven throughout history. and it will cause yet another world war.
08-27-2007, 02:08 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by rawr
I want you to read and educate yourself, so you can form a better opinion and argument that suits your own personal value system, beliefs and ideologies. So hopefully you can effectively retaliate and tell any one of us to go ---- ourselves on a point we're trying to make. Rather than vaguely skimming the regular soapbox issues each candidate tries to use to hook people into voting for them, then trying to take a hard line stance about why you don't like that candidate.
I haven't said he's the right choice for the nation, that's for you to decide for yourself. This is why I suggest that you make use of the readily available resource that is the internet and do some digging on your own. Any information other than empirical facts in this thread, have an extreme potential towards being biased, therefore this forum isn't such a good place to get information on the people running for office.
I haven't said he's the right choice for the nation, that's for you to decide for yourself. This is why I suggest that you make use of the readily available resource that is the internet and do some digging on your own. Any information other than empirical facts in this thread, have an extreme potential towards being biased, therefore this forum isn't such a good place to get information on the people running for office.
Then I'll show you what Rudy has done.
If you say he isnt the right choice, who is in your opinion?
08-27-2007, 02:15 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
you have a very naive view on the world.
all i can say is that isolationism does not work. this has been proven throughout history. and it will cause yet another world war.
all i can say is that isolationism does not work. this has been proven throughout history. and it will cause yet another world war.
we learned from pearl harbor but apparently got the wrong message from 9/11
9/11 isnt a nation attacking us.. so there is no nation to retaliate against.. ----.. peta could get together and hijack some planes and drive em into some towers..
you prolly think fighting in iraq is making us safer.. but it isnt...
u prolly think afganistan made us safer.. but it didnt..
meh
terrorism isnt a war you can fight with guns.. its an ideology you need to fight with education
isolationism might not help us.. but staying in iraq wont either.. there is no end to the war on terror it has no end.. there more you fight em the bigger they get.. sadly..
08-27-2007, 02:18 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by buk9tp
there never will be another pearl harbor, but there might be another 9/11
we learned from pearl harbor but apparently got the wrong message from 9/11
9/11 isnt a nation attacking us.. so there is no nation to retaliate against.. ----.. peta could get together and hijack some planes and drive em into some towers..
you prolly think fighting in iraq is making us safer.. but it isnt...
u prolly think afganistan made us safer.. but it didnt..
meh
terrorism isnt a war you can fight with guns.. its an ideology you need to fight with education
isolationism might not help us.. but staying in iraq wont either.. there is no end to the war on terror it has no end.. there more you fight em the bigger they get.. sadly..
we learned from pearl harbor but apparently got the wrong message from 9/11
9/11 isnt a nation attacking us.. so there is no nation to retaliate against.. ----.. peta could get together and hijack some planes and drive em into some towers..
you prolly think fighting in iraq is making us safer.. but it isnt...
u prolly think afganistan made us safer.. but it didnt..
meh
terrorism isnt a war you can fight with guns.. its an ideology you need to fight with education
isolationism might not help us.. but staying in iraq wont either.. there is no end to the war on terror it has no end.. there more you fight em the bigger they get.. sadly..
bottom line is we need to kill the people who want to kill us before they do it.
08-27-2007, 02:18 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
all i can say is that isolationism does not work. this has been proven throughout history. and it will cause yet another world war.
Rich: Jonny, would you say that Stevemode outperformed you in that last argument where you say isolationism will start
a world war, and Stevemode made an actual case for world war through uncalled for American influence, making
people hate us?
Jonny: Yeppers.
Quiz question 25: My ------- neighbors family is more likely to hate me if I:
A: Go to his house, take him out, and tell the family we're gonna stay here to make sure they live the way we want them to.
B: Stay at my house, and let thier disfunctional family battle it out and kill each other off.
Fear is your only god.
08-27-2007, 02:21 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
bottom line is we need to kill the people who want to kill us before they do it.
We sure do, but I'm sure the President of the homeowners associatioin would like to know why I'd burn his house down in a minute. It's because he is unneccesarily up in my ----, above and beyond what his job description calls for.
08-27-2007, 02:22 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by random-strike
bottom line is we need to kill the people who want to kill us before they do it.
08-27-2007, 02:25 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
those are two completely different situations.
and the comparison is not relevant in basically anyway.
isolationism has cause two world wars - fact
isolationism will cause another world war on a yet another greater scale - fact
this has been proven throughout history.
we are not killing arabs because they are fighting amoungst themselves. we're killing them because they have declared war on us, and are attacking us constantly
your suggestion is that we appease them?
what has appeasement got us? world war II
?
appeasement and isolationism are two ingredients for world war.
and the comparison is not relevant in basically anyway.
isolationism has cause two world wars - fact
isolationism will cause another world war on a yet another greater scale - fact
this has been proven throughout history.
we are not killing arabs because they are fighting amoungst themselves. we're killing them because they have declared war on us, and are attacking us constantly
Originally Posted by buk9tp
which will inturn give them more fuel to there ideology and enable them to recruit more people and it will never end.. i dont care what anyone says.. we will NEVER be 100% safe from an attack. i dont think were ever even gonna be 10% safe from attack.. lol
what has appeasement got us? world war II
? appeasement and isolationism are two ingredients for world war.
08-27-2007, 02:25 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
There's no emergency safety plan, or government agency that would prevent me from killing Buk at any time of the day. To try to create one, would be a waste. Life has risks. Git-R-Done
08-27-2007, 02:28 AM
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Re: Ron Paul.
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
There's no emergency safety plan, or government agency that would prevent me from killing Buk at any time of the day. To try to create one, would be a waste. Life has risks. Git-R-Done
that is true... but irrelevant
