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Old 09-13-2007, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CoreyR
johnny that picture doesnt prove a god damn thing. watch the zeitgeist movie, which im sure youll say is full of biased bullshit. its got UNDENIABLE proof of the 911 attacks and the pentagon and all that good ----. fire? wow. OMG crazy.

wheres the wings? the engines? the ------- 44 foot tall fuselage that only made a ------- 5 foot diameter hole. explain that ***** face. oh thats right there was a witness 100 feet from the impact that somehow didnt get killed by the explosion but had his truck embedded with parts of this imaginary "757" that hit.

that site you linked was a joke. noone had thier stories straight. some were saying it came in a a nose dive, some said it came in level, some said it veered left, some said it was 50 feet above them, some said 20. funny how that works.
wings are filled with fuel in 757s. i love how you're the basement expert on aircraft aren't you, you know exactly what will happen when one crashes into the pentagon don't you

there is bigger than 5 foo hole dumbass, that hole is an exit hole inside the pentagon

you're a joker just like this other idiot. when you grow up you might get a clue. but now, keep blaming bush and everyone else for your pathetic life.

there are lots of pictures of aircraft parts in the wreckage. just search for it.

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did you ever read the popular mechanics artical about 9/11... dispelling any spec of credability any of these kook theories ever had?

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Old 09-13-2007, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
wings are filled with fuel in 757s. i love how you're the basement expert on aircraft aren't you, you know exactly what will happen when one crashes into the pentagon don't you

there is bigger than 5 foo hole dumbass, that hole is an exit hole inside the pentagon

you're a joker just like this other idiot. when you grow up you might get a clue. but now, keep blaming bush and everyone else for your pathetic life.

there are lots of pictures of aircraft parts in the wreckage. just search for it.

DUMBBBBBBASSSSSSSSSS

did you ever read the popular mechanics artical about 9/11... dispelling any spec of credability any of these kook theories ever had?

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ok way to avoid answering cause you know youre wrong. let me as AGAIN. what happened to the wings then? there were no remains from this imaginary 757. show me pictures

before you make yourself look stupid (yes im a nice guy) the melting point of titanium is 1600+ degrees and the melting point of ALU is 660. the boiling point of both is 3200+ and 2400+ respectively and the burning temp of jet fuel is roughly 1500 degrees. so before you clain it all got vaporized think of another reason. or you can sit he and claim im wrong without proff while i make you look stupid in the mean time.

now we know planes hit the 2 towers, lets pretend for a second the manor they collapsed was due to the planes (absolutley not) but lets entertain that. why did tower 7 fall which had no impact whatsoever from the other towers? because im just an idiot right?

johnny give it up, the only arguement you have here is that you dont like ******* and cant be forced to.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
awdstylez is a anti-american LOSER. he will always be a loser, blaming others for his shitty life.

the pittling little kid in his moms basement (awdstylez) just figured out the huge government conspiracy!!! he is soooo smart!!!!! if there wasn't 1000 videos of planes hitting the towers, he would say it didn't happen! there are still thousands of people who say no planes hit the towers. even though there is a shitload of videos of it happening...

this little pathetic kid is an expert on airplanes, he knows exactly what would happen if a plane hit the pentagon, he knows exactly what damage would happen, man, you can't build a car that doesn't break itself but you can figure out vast right wing conspiracies.

what a joke.

its useless argueing "if you had the power to do it" BECAUSE WE DON'T AND WILL NEVER. **** and everyone else STILL HAVE RIGHTS. I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THEM DISGUSTING, I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THEM.

YOU ARE FORCING YOUR MORALS ON US. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE A ****** YOU ARE SAFE... YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO THINK **** ARE WRONG.

LIBERAL THOUGHT POLICE.

wow, thats quite a ------ of flames for a missle, or cessna.
Where do I begin....


Anti-American because I want to keep my constitutional rights. Hmm... since this country is currently so far off from the constitution and I want it back to the constitution (like a real conservative) rather than just blindly following the current government (like a liberal, like you), I guess that would make me Anti-American. Or it would at least make me Anti-Current America.

I didn't figure out anything. The conspiracy has been known for a long time, I just restated it. But in spite of that I'm going to give you an exercise in broadening your view anyway.
How do YOU know that planes hit the towers? Because we all saw videos of it? So is televised video enough to prove it 100% true? I think not. I watch movies (occationally). Some fantastic things happen in movies. The Matrix movies happen to be a favorite of mine. I watch some amazing things happen on video in those movies, does that make it true and real? Of course not, you would be a fool to argue otherwise (in which case I wouldn't put it past you). So video isn't enough to prove it true 100%. What other evidence do you have to go on? You have to remember, you live in a shack in the woods, your world doesn't extend very far. Aside from video evidence, you can go off of what you hear on the news. We all know the news is a farce, so that's also out as a 100% true and credible sourse. Given your hermit lifestyle, I highly doubt you've ever actually spoken in person with someone that witnessed the world trade incident first hand, so that is out too. Even if you had, there's always the chance that they were lying.
And now we come to my point. The only way to be 100%, absolutely certain of an event is to see it first hand (and even that isn't always true do to perspective and rememberance issues, but that's getting way over your head). And you DID NOT witness a plane hitting the tower first hand, therefore you have NO basis to state it as fact. If YOU YOURSELF did not see it happen, then even YOU cannot be CERTAIN that it actually happened. Anything short of first hand experience involves taking someone else's word for it. So don't sit there and play arm chair world events boy with me and throw around things as absolute truth when in reality, you yourself are only going off of what someone else told you, in this case two horrifically unreliable sources, the government and the media.


Your basis for wanting laws banning gay marriage is a religious one. Your religion has zero significants in this country and its policies, therefore your request is denied and the gay people are allowed to be married. You trying to lobby against gay marriage is YOU PUSHING YOUR MORALS TO RESTRICT THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. However, I've had enough of your diversionary bull ---- and that's the last thing that will be said about homosexual rights, that isn't what this thread is about and if you cannot find an arguement relevant to the thread you need to GTFO.

Where is your rebuttle to the fact that I quoted every major founding father and showed that they disagree with your foreign relations ideas?

The picture you showed also supports my side, not your's. There is no aircraft damage in that photo what-so-ever. I see a building on fire with little other damage, not a building that has been struck by a 45ft tall, 100+ ton commercial airliner.


Originally Posted by random-strike
did you ever read the popular machanics artical about 9/11... dispelling any spec of credability any of these kook theories ever had?
Much like TV, everything in printed publications is 100% true, 100% of the time. I need to stop overlooking the infallibility of American media. Silly me.


Your constant personal insults only help to degrade your already extremely poor (if existant at all) arguments. Your inability to use at least an elementary level of grammar, spelling, and sentence structure is just plain pissing me off at this point. I think you need to retire yourself from this thread before you really get burried.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:30 AM
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Where do I begin....


Anti-American because I want to keep my constitutional rights. Hmm... since this country is currently so far off from the constitution and I want it back to the constitution (like a real conservative) rather than just blindly following the current government (like a liberal, like you), I guess that would make me Anti-American. Or it would at least make me Anti-Current America.

I didn't figure out anything. The conspiracy has been known for a long time, I just restated it. But in spite of that I'm going to give you an exercise in broadening your view anyway.
How do YOU know that planes hit the towers? Because we all saw videos of it? So is televised video enough to prove it 100% true? I think not. I watch movies (occationally). Some fantastic things happen in movies. The Matrix movies happen to be a favorite of mine. I watch some amazing things happen on video in those movies, does that make it true and real? Of course not, you would be a fool to argue otherwise (in which case I wouldn't put it past you). So video isn't enough to prove it true 100%. What other evidence do you have to go on? You have to remember, you live in a shack in the woods, your world doesn't extend very far. Aside from video evidence, you can go off of what you hear on the news. We all know the news is a farce, so that's also out as a 100% true and credible sourse. Given your hermit lifestyle, I highly doubt you've ever actually spoken in person with someone that witnessed the world trade incident first hand, so that is out too. Even if you had, there's always the chance that they were lying.
And now we come to my point. The only way to be 100%, absolutely certain of an event is to see it first hand (and even that isn't always true do to perspective and rememberance issues, but that's getting way over your head). And you DID NOT witness a plane hitting the tower first hand, therefore you have NO basis to state it as fact. If YOU YOURSELF did not see it happen, then even YOU cannot be CERTAIN that it actually happened. Anything short of first hand experience involves taking someone else's word for it. So don't sit there and play arm chair world events boy with me and throw around things as absolute truth when in reality, you yourself are only going off of what someone else told you, in this case two horrifically unreliable sources, the government and the media.


Your basis for wanting laws banning gay marriage is a religious one. Your religion has zero significants in this country and its policies, therefore your request is denied and the gay people are allowed to be married. You trying to lobby against gay marriage is YOU PUSHING YOUR MORALS TO RESTRICT THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. However, I've had enough of your diversionary bull ---- and that's the last thing that will be said about homosexual rights, that isn't what this thread is about and if you cannot find an arguement relevant to the thread you need to GTFO.

Where is your rebuttle to the fact that I quoted every major founding father and showed that they disagree with your foreign relations ideas?

The picture you showed also supports my side, not your's. There is no aircraft damage in that photo what-so-ever. I see a building on fire with little other damage, not a building that has been struck by a 45ft tall, 100+ ton commercial airliner.


Much like TV, everything in printed publications is 100% true, 100% of the time. I need to stop overlooking the infallibility of American media. Silly me.


Your constant personal insults only help to degrade your already extremely poor (if existant at all) arguments. Your inability to use at least an elementary level of grammar, spelling, and sentence structure is just plain pissing me off at this point. I think you need to retire yourself from this thread before you really get burried.
lol this sums it up people

the videos on tv are fake, all the video people took with their cameras is fake.

this guy has a serous mental disorder. what a complete joke of a loser.

thread is over.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by random-strike
lol this sums it up people

the videos on tv are fake, all the video people took with their cameras is fake.

this guy has a serous mental disorder. what a complete joke of a loser.

thread is over.
You did an outstanding job refuting all of my arguments in that post as well as the backlog of other arguements from many of my previous posts, AND you managed to prove Corey wrong also. Well done. I have to say, I'm quite impressed.
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