Rant about turbo kits
#11
Re:Rant about turbo kits
Well and an FYI i sell turbo kits for the 3g accord with engine managment exhuast WAIC etc etc etc. you can get what you want a hwole kit however. the basics DP, manifold, font mount run like $600 then you can do the rest. so yeah people are selling turbo kits for less then $3k but ive got 1yr worth of development in mine and mosty all of the profits right back into my car.
#12
Re:Rant about turbo kits
Originally Posted by crx88Si
see how much it costs you in R&D etc..
But you're ind of right... there should be like a DX version of an Si turbo kit.
#14
Re:Rant about turbo kits
Originally Posted by hotrex
my pieced together kit ran me around 2600 with mostly new parts and a zdyne
#15
Re:Rant about turbo kits
heres the break down.
drag gen3 mani
t3 48/60
turbo xs type h bov
2.5 inch charge piping
2.5 inch downpipe
custom coach frontmount intercooler
zdyne standalone ecu
dsm 450cc injectors
autometer boost and air/fuel guages
hks turbo timer
all couplers fitting and hardware.
everything new except the drag gen 3 mani right around 2600
show me a kit for that price that can compete component wise....aint happenin
drag gen3 mani
t3 48/60
turbo xs type h bov
2.5 inch charge piping
2.5 inch downpipe
custom coach frontmount intercooler
zdyne standalone ecu
dsm 450cc injectors
autometer boost and air/fuel guages
hks turbo timer
all couplers fitting and hardware.
everything new except the drag gen 3 mani right around 2600
show me a kit for that price that can compete component wise....aint happenin
#16
Re:Rant about turbo kits
I think Gimpy sees my point. My point is, the setup both he and i named off(his is better b/c his BOV is new and he knows a good place to be getting injectors)
Basically what im saying is...everyone on this site using a T3 pretty much has the same setup...I mean manifold type varies and so does choice of BOV...but i would say about 75% of the setups on this site are with T3 turbos, HF manifolds,cast, or a log manifold, 450cc injectors, and a 25x6x2/3 FMIC....i bet there are a lot of companies that would be more than happy to bend out DP's as you order them and weld on a flange...and There are plenty of turbo rebuild companies that would love a "big" account...
I just dont understand why no one has done this. Every god damn honda user in america looking to make their car go faster would do a form of gimpy or my idea(my idea isnt original just based on nearly every T3 turbo setup) if they could get 70-100whp for under $1500. I dunno, i guess my rant is mainly how Vendors are dumbasses and are putting out what everyone wants but cant afford when they should be putting out what everyone can afford.
Oh, an addition to the setup would be some sort of manual boost controller(until ECU roms can get a good way to use the EBC w/o using A/C)
I think HMT should start a buisness....
PS: Gimpy, good work fixing up some of the scripts in uberdata, next step is support up to atlest 1 bar
Basically what im saying is...everyone on this site using a T3 pretty much has the same setup...I mean manifold type varies and so does choice of BOV...but i would say about 75% of the setups on this site are with T3 turbos, HF manifolds,cast, or a log manifold, 450cc injectors, and a 25x6x2/3 FMIC....i bet there are a lot of companies that would be more than happy to bend out DP's as you order them and weld on a flange...and There are plenty of turbo rebuild companies that would love a "big" account...
I just dont understand why no one has done this. Every god damn honda user in america looking to make their car go faster would do a form of gimpy or my idea(my idea isnt original just based on nearly every T3 turbo setup) if they could get 70-100whp for under $1500. I dunno, i guess my rant is mainly how Vendors are dumbasses and are putting out what everyone wants but cant afford when they should be putting out what everyone can afford.
Oh, an addition to the setup would be some sort of manual boost controller(until ECU roms can get a good way to use the EBC w/o using A/C)
I think HMT should start a buisness....
PS: Gimpy, good work fixing up some of the scripts in uberdata, next step is support up to atlest 1 bar
#17
Re:Rant about turbo kits
You'd also have to factor in the gasket sealer/ gaskets needed for it to be a complete kit.
There are people on here that make flanges for log manifolds, a faq on how to do them, and people that would weld 10 up on the cheap. You got all the lines. DP wouldn't be a problem just go through the same people with the log manifolds. Sit on here for a couple months and buy up 10 turbos and rebuild them. FMU bulk, BOV BULK, intercoolers can be made here too...
It sounds like a good "little" idea. You would have to scout out some good deals to get the cost down. And then there's the fact that to do ten kits you'll need about $15000 to start.
Ofcourse you could probably get ten manifolds welded up for $1000. DP's I guess another 500-1000. No idea how much a fmu and bov bulk would be, I guess 80% of retail so about another 1000. You might be able to swing getting all the turbos and rebuilt for $2000 with serious scouting. Then the intercoolers I don't know, so I'll guess 1500 for ten quick but effective ones. factor in about 500 for the lines, 500 for some charge pipes in bulk and 500 for boost gauges, then 1000 for misc crap.
so you're looking at about 9000 dollars to start. and if you sold for 1500 a piece that's a 6000 dollar profit. Which SHOULD got straight back into the business to get it breathing.
That's a hefty chunk of change and alot of time spent finding these deals.
There are people on here that make flanges for log manifolds, a faq on how to do them, and people that would weld 10 up on the cheap. You got all the lines. DP wouldn't be a problem just go through the same people with the log manifolds. Sit on here for a couple months and buy up 10 turbos and rebuild them. FMU bulk, BOV BULK, intercoolers can be made here too...
It sounds like a good "little" idea. You would have to scout out some good deals to get the cost down. And then there's the fact that to do ten kits you'll need about $15000 to start.
Ofcourse you could probably get ten manifolds welded up for $1000. DP's I guess another 500-1000. No idea how much a fmu and bov bulk would be, I guess 80% of retail so about another 1000. You might be able to swing getting all the turbos and rebuilt for $2000 with serious scouting. Then the intercoolers I don't know, so I'll guess 1500 for ten quick but effective ones. factor in about 500 for the lines, 500 for some charge pipes in bulk and 500 for boost gauges, then 1000 for misc crap.
so you're looking at about 9000 dollars to start. and if you sold for 1500 a piece that's a 6000 dollar profit. Which SHOULD got straight back into the business to get it breathing.
That's a hefty chunk of change and alot of time spent finding these deals.
#19
Re:Rant about turbo kits
if a company is selling a turbo on ebay....expect total cost to be approx half what they are selling it for....maybe a third since its ebay....
I'm not saying we should do it, but all these places are doing precision turbo kits and ----...im just saying why cant a T3 budget turbo kit be done....less work for me
I'm not saying we should do it, but all these places are doing precision turbo kits and ----...im just saying why cant a T3 budget turbo kit be done....less work for me
#20
Re:Rant about turbo kits
for charge pipes you could just buy front mount intakes (the intercooler "looking" ones) in bulk, then you'd have charge pipes for $50 a piece, with connectors and all you'd need is a u bend for the other side and a u bend for the filter. oh yeah, you'd need to buy filters, probably from the same guy you get the frount mount intakes from