Petition for securing our borders.
04-30-2005, 01:13 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
Originally Posted by julio_bOOstamante
this is ------- bullshit. My parents both came here illegally and neither of them stood on a corner to look for work. They didnt even commit any crimes. My dad came here for the same reason everyone else, black, brown, yellow whatever comes here for ..it was for the chance for a better life. My parents both grew up with nothing and now have something to be proud of. a house and the fact that they are legal citizens of this country. i am proud of what my parents have acheived and i dont think anyone else should be denied the oppurnutiy to come make something for themselves.
do you really think the "illegals" you see come here are applying for jobs like architects, or mortgage bankers? ---- no, they are here to fill any job thats available. Its not like they decided, hey! lets take all the jobs from the white man. They come here and mop our floors, cut your grass, pick up your trash, and other ---- jobs that the "white man" either has not time to do or would rather not be seen doing.
Oh and another thing...terrorists dont come through tijuana or any of the other borders. they come thorugh air planes with high tech ---- and make high tech badges and I.D's Mexicans and other immigrants dont even have enough money for shoe laces or toothpaste.
do you really think the "illegals" you see come here are applying for jobs like architects, or mortgage bankers? ---- no, they are here to fill any job thats available. Its not like they decided, hey! lets take all the jobs from the white man. They come here and mop our floors, cut your grass, pick up your trash, and other ---- jobs that the "white man" either has not time to do or would rather not be seen doing.
Oh and another thing...terrorists dont come through tijuana or any of the other borders. they come thorugh air planes with high tech ---- and make high tech badges and I.D's Mexicans and other immigrants dont even have enough money for shoe laces or toothpaste.
I am all for ppl coming to the US to start a life and eventually work towards becoming a citizen. A large protion of illegals are not. They are young males who come here to work tax free and send the money back to their families in their home country. That is not right to me. If someone wants to come to America to start a better life thats fine with me. Parts of my family did just that. Other parts were convicts involuntarily shipped off to America. Regardless, my family came here to make a new life not work here cause the money is better and collect welfare.
All of the jobs the white man won't do still get done in other places where the immigrant population is an insignificant fraction of the total. I worked landscaping in high school in Alabama and made enough money to buy a car and pay the bills. In Arizona that simply would not be possible.
It hurts the immigrants too. Working under the table means no worker's comp, no benefits, no chance of promotion. Your employer can arbitrarily fire you or make you do something dangerous. There is basically none of the protections provided by law to the employee. It creates things like sweatshops and debt-peonage.
The Minutemen guys are completely within their rights as citizens. It is perfectly legal to make a citizens arrest. The federal government is either unwilling or unable to enforce it's own laws. Those who suffer from those being broken(US taxpayers) are enforcing said laws.
BTW I don't see this as a White vs Mexican thing. It's a Citizen vs Non-Citizen issue.
About the terrorist thing. Al-Queada and Ansar-Al'Islam terrorist training manuals specifically mention using the US/Mexico border to enter because of the physical similarities between Middle Eastern and Latin genotypes. It is ridiculously easy to sneak across the border if you're willing to do some walking, carry water, and a good map. What will your opinion be if the Minutemen guys catch someone sneaking some Ebola or Smallpox across?
I am happy seeing people take a proactive solution to their problems instead of just doin nothing and crying about it.
04-30-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
MEcha is too hardcore for me steve. I dont think they would allow me to participate in their organization. 
I do however listen to AM radio and those Jonh and Kenn fools are really something else.
I do however listen to AM radio and those Jonh and Kenn fools are really something else.
04-30-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
amen.....
04-30-2005, 01:17 AM
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I know where your coming from Julio, and I gots nothing but love for the HMT So Cal, but you're getting bombed on this one. 
04-30-2005, 01:20 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
Originally Posted by Fulcrum
It's a Citizen vs Non-Citizen issue.
04-30-2005, 01:20 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
mexicans could never overthrow this nation, or california. or anywhere for that matter.
04-30-2005, 01:30 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
Originally Posted by rawr
you get paid 27+ an hour? lets see you get on a roof in 90º weather work a 10 hour day and make 30 dollars for it then you wont think you work extreamly hard for the money anymore.
I dont have a problem with ppl coming to this country with the goal of becoming an American. They better be prepared to pay taxes and learn english. I don't want anyone coming here to mooch off the system while Uncle Sam takes his 28% from me every single day.
04-30-2005, 01:33 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
Originally Posted by Fulcrum
They better be prepared to pay taxes and learn english. I don't want anyone coming here to mooch off the system while Uncle Sam takes his 28% from me every single day.
04-30-2005, 01:35 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
Originally Posted by random-strike
Originally Posted by Fulcrum
They better be prepared to pay taxes and learn english. I don't want anyone coming here to mooch off the system while Uncle Sam takes his 28% from me every single day.
04-30-2005, 01:57 AM
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Re: Petition for securing our borders.
Originally Posted by hotrex
Originally Posted by random-strike
Originally Posted by Fulcrum
They better be prepared to pay taxes and learn english. I don't want anyone coming here to mooch off the system while Uncle Sam takes his 28% from me every single day.
